With the latest news of Mckmama making the decision to shut down her blog I have to wonder if the Snake Is Dead? The Snake being Mwop. How will they justify their actions of stalking, harassing and libel if Mckmama is no longer a "Public Figure"? Remember they claim Mckmama being a "Public Figure" allows them to do what they do.
Now if this is true and Mckmama is no longer a "Public Figure", no longer a blogger who puts herself out there, then it should be true: THE SNAKE IS DEAD. Mckmama cut the head off the snake by taking away her blog for them to tear apart.
Good job Mckmama for dropping the blog. Really I believe it is Mckmama taking the power and showing MWOP who is boss. I'm happy to see a family back together and wish Mckmama all the best!
MWOP move on, just like Mckmama is doing. THE SNAKE IS DEAD!!!
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Give me a bloody break! As if she won't now be worshiping FB and Instagram as her idol(her words). If she wants to stop the chatter, then her FB page shouldn't be public. Period. Keep it to friends and family like the rest of us peons.
If she does that and people continue to hound her, then I will take her side that she isn't asking for it.
And I am waiting for a new blog to rise out of the ashes. She didn't quit blogging because she decided it was time. It was decided for her. The domain is for sale.
While I disagree with a lot of what some @ MWOP do/say-
Jennifer didn't just close up shop and call it a day. The trustee is going to take control of her blog and sell it to the highest bidder. In the process of shutting her blog now vs when the BK is done-she may of did more harm than good to herself and family. All she managed to do is devalue the blog and lower the amount that could be used to pay down her massive debt.
This move on Jennifer's part is more to screw over a Trustee than any person on MWOP.
So to answer the question--the snake is not dead. It had nothing to do with the move at all.
Question for you- What are you going to do once MWOP shuts their doors once and for all? Snake dying over here too??
Well then this blog will also be DEAD. If there is no longer an MWOP (and seriously you think they will all just go away?), who will this site then pick on?
MCKMAMA may have stopped blogging but her very PUBLIC Facebook Page is still going along with Twitter and Instagram. She just isn't making money off those things. She will be back to blogging, she can't help herself, she likes the attention and the controversy she can stir up. She still has to remain a public person to retain her income for her diet pill scam, she needs new suckers to keep her income rolling in.
I unfortunately don't think the snake is dead. As long as JM has a Facebook and IG account the bullies at mwop will continue to spew their jealousy and hatred. Barbara-Please continue your blog! They can still be held accountable in a court of law for their stalking, threats, etc...
Dollars to doughnuts she opens up a new blog before the year is out.
another anon
Wait a minute, how is she no longer a public figure just because she's not posting anymore on her blog? Her postings have been WAY down for a while now, while her online--PUBLIC--presence is not. In fact she now has an Instagram account in addition to Facebook and Twitter, so really all of her content is just dispersed into multiple public sites that can't be seized as part of a bankruptcy. She's just as public as ever, if not more so. I'm not seeing the logic in your argument.
Actually, as little as Jen as been posting on her blog lately, all mwop's fodder comes from her Instagram pics and FB posts. Her FB is basically her new "blog". Snake ain't dead. It's prob. just getting cranked up with the upcoming BR stuff just around the corner. (not a mwop-er - just observing) :)
Yes, shes still breathing! That makes her public! And she might blog....someday! So, so....we'll never have to get lives. We can just camp out all day at MWOP and comment because hey! She has a Facebook account! Like 2 zillion other people so she's public!
Blah blah blah. Lawsuit! Discovery! BK! Trustee! Feet! Paint! Blah!
I can't believe that one MWOP is married to man who work for HUGE Christian Broadcasting Network?
Agree with everyone here..this is a calculated move by JM due to the domain being up for sale. She is forced to quit her blog but nit forced to start something new The snake isn't dead and gone. Not while it's fed by IG, FB and Twitter.
I don't really understand why you hate MWOP so much, Jennifer thrives mainly due to MWOP and that equated to $$$. She feeds off of it Without the controversy JM is/was/will be nothing. Her posts have been boring for a long time.
Additionally if and when MWOP shuts down (if and when JM disappears into the sunset...very unlikely) well then, this little inch worm BWOP blog should also be disappearing, right? A domino effect so all can live happily ever after.
That's IF the snake is dead. It isn't. It's merely scheming. An addict does not recover overnight,
360degrees of sadness.
I read somewhere on mwop that since she still has a facebook and instagram they were still going to attack her and discuss everything she does to the nth degree. Which of course makes zero logical sense since what seems half the free world has an active facebook and instagram account.
But logic has never been and doesn't look to ever be mwops strong point.
Agree with everyone here? You might want to read the comments, lol. How many millions of people have IG, FB and twitter? Pretty sad excuse.
Hate mwop? OH no, I for one am laughing out loud at mwop. No hate involved, just lots of laughter over their double standards and hypocrisy.
Anyone else thinking that the mwopblog is an idol to many? Anyone?
Surely you jest!
Anon 5:00, not quite "everyone". I don't give a turd why she shut the blog down. But then, if every "mommy blogger" in the world evaporated I'd never notice.
Go back to MWOP where people care, deeply.
I think the snake is dead also.
I don't think having a facebook, twitter or instagram makes you a public figure.
Most of us have one of the types of social media she has if not all three and does that make us public figures. If Mwop continues to tear her life apart I'd say all the Mwop ladies who have FB, Twitter or Instagram are fair game for having their life talked about.
Half of the free world has a Facebook fan page with 13,000 followers and sells MLM products? If MWOP used the word attack then that goes to far, but I wouldn't say zero logical sense just because she's switched from her blog to her public Facebook persona.
@Anon 6:38
Stop calling me Surely!
This is your notice to stop using first names! Shirley you can understand...
This is so true and I agree. Time for Anja to close up shop.
I also agree with anon about mwop is many of the womens idol. They need a place to feel connected and accepted because MANY of the mwop women are social misfits. Appear to not have any real friends since they spend so much time on mwoop. 1000's of comments for each of them.
@anon 5:00p.m. So with your reasoning that mwop feeds Jennifer + the fact that mwop hates Jennifer wouldn't it make more sense for mwop to shut down to hurt Jennifer?
Mwop has been screaming and yelling for JM to shut the blog down. Now she has and they are still screaming and yelling.
Anyone surprised? This is why they are laughed at and even the snark sites like GOMI make fun of these women. I'd love to see SNL do a skit of one day of the comments from Mwop.
No one has said attack. It's just a funny hobby. And if JM doesn't read there, it certainly isn'y hurting her. I am surprised to feel sad that JM has stopped blogging, though she stopped really blogging long ago. She lost all credibility for me with how she handled Stellan's situation and then her "i am so awesome" routine got old fast. I found MWOP because I knew I couldn't be the only sane person. Still, I never participated in MWOP, but it was fun to watch JM, MWOP, and BWOP go round and round. For some time now I have missed the big stories discussed at MWOP. The petty stuff is boring to read about, and I am sad that all they will have now are the petty FB posts to discuss. Maybe there will be one more good run after the BK is settled but come November, people will fade away, and by the holidays I predict an end to all of this. There was a time for MWOP and BWOP, but that time is coming to an end. Hopefully the friendships made will last through FB and other blogs. But in the grand scheme of things, only a few of us knew this story, and only a few of us care that it happened. I really hope someone writes a book!!
Jennifer's husband is in trouble with the law yet again. According to the Wisconsin Court website (public), he's due in court on Oct. 4th, just five days before the Trustee is lowering the boom on the Mckinneys for bankruptcy fraud. Trouble seems to follow them everywhere. Or maybe it's that they can't seem to follow laws. Either way, it's very sad.
Mwop sucks BTW.
It always amazes me how endlessly surprised the MWOPPERs are when someone doesn't feel the need to stuff their children with Hohos and Kool Aid. Jen gets her kids to eat healthy foods as "snack" and they complain about it. Of course, Jen has thin, healthy kids. I can only wonder what the MWOPers are feeding theirs.
Guess what? Her kids eat better food than yours do, folks. You could learn something from her.
While there are many, many people with Facebook, most of those(myself included) have it set up where the whole fricking world can't see it and comment on it.
If you are honestly telling me that she isn't using it for attention, then you need to seriously think about it a bit more.
IMO, MWOP, BWOP, BMM are all part of the same vicious cycle. And it all started & loops around one person. JM. For just a moment, forget about all the infighting, inappropriate comments, stalking. Think about the woman who is at the center of all this. Consider all the unethical actions, the lying, the inappropriate, attention getting behavior. It's a shame that what was an honest attempt to uncover all of this has turned into a 3 ring circus. I'm not talking about a woman who has honestly & ethically gone about making a living to help support her family. Forget about all the nit picking. Think about how hundreds, if not thousands of people who were/are looking up to someone is making $$$ from lying to people. In the end, we can all keep going round & round; but will it really change anything? I don't believe so.
Isn't MWOP allowed a few days to hold a wake? How long after they stop will this site stop?
The problem with mwop is they can't or won't contain their hatred and double standards to mwop. They feel the need to create fake names and accounts to push it further and further.
I agree about the food and cringe when I hear mwop sheeple suggest 'kid" food that is unhealthy.
Facebook is all about attention, for almost evryone, you need to think up a bette excuse than that for the poor behavior.
It seems even mwop thinks the bk is going to be a big nothing.
Anon 1035, you spend a lot of time trolling Wisconsin court sites? Interesting hobby.
Mwop will never disappear simply because they've got nothing better to do.
7:23, really? So what. She lost 50 pounds instead of 61? She eats fast food more than she says? SO WHAT.
Literally, none of it matters. And in all fairness she introduced her readers to foods ideas, gardening concepts, home organizing techniques and all sorts of stuff they might never have come in contact with otherwise. I'm willing to bet that without her, a good chunk of her readership never would have heard of quinoa.
Whether it's McM, KelleH, KellyS, that "Brittany" person (a big freeloader) they all speak of so worshipfully...there are always people looking for a leader, looking for someone to emulate. The internet has just intensified that, but there's nothing about Jen that's much different than any of the rest of them - except in the weirdly twisted minds of MWOP.
She supports her family. Like it or not, Xyng is perfectly legal and for sale everywhere...she's just made a success of it. It's not for MWOP to decide what's "ethical" or acceptable to them...it simply doesn't matter what they think. And now that it's over and it appears Jen's riding off into the sunset, marriage intact and not "prisonbound" in any sense...it's got to kill the MWOPpers to see exactly how irrelevant and pointless they turned out to be.
Anon 7.32,
There hasn't been an honest attempt to uncover the facts since ohih went astray and if you believe that is the purpose of the current mwop, I have a bridge to sell you. Outside of the accused (but not convicted) lies during bakruptcy and the foreclosed homes, a good chunk of mwops assumptions are just that, assumptions.
You are aware that mwop (through the comments) is also guilty of unethical actions, lying, inappropriate, attention getting behavior? Right, please don't tell me that you can't see the horrible all in the name of bringing one person down?
LOL, Anon 8:25, I was hoping somebody would pick up on it. :) Sorry for using your first name. :)
Actually, I'm not so sure MWOP wanted her close down her blog. I think what they wanted was for JM to tell the truth.
Wouldn't promoting clicks on MckMama's blog be considered with malice since just 2 days ago they promoted not to click?
Anja is the one who is sponsoring this in an effort to make the blog appear to have more value and that it is popular.
The intent is to try and make false worth? Seems very shady and the fact Anja is the person who sponsored this activity seems wrong.
Just one more proof of how they do illegal things and have such a mob mentality going on at that site. Nothing they do surprises me.
If mwop wanted JM to vtell the truth, shouldn't they start with telling the truth themselves? I never get their double standard of behavior.
MWOP (some not all) won't be happy until she is completely off the internet. Yes, they did want her to tell the truth but that's just not going to happen. JM is completely devoid of telling the truth. She is morally bankrupt and she will never stop scamming and trying to cheat the system. The blog may be gone thanks to the Trustee of her case but she'll be back to blogging before too long.
Anon 11:25, would that be the 'real truth' or the distorted 'MWOP truth'? They would not know the truth if it bit them in the butt!
When I said that MWOP, BWOP, BMM are all part of the vicious cycle, I was not defending the commenters at MWOP, nor can I condone the comments here. And there's no way in hell I will even go there with OHIH. What I will say from my own perspective is that JM has literally opened the front door & invited all the negative attention. I have my own boundaries that I won't cross, but that's me. I don't care who you are anywhere publically, but if you put out false information that can be potentially harmful (ex: XYNG) can that be justified by saying somebody's making a living, so it's ok? Is it ok to portray yourself aggressively as a person with high morals & ethics & to make a ton of $$$, when in reality you've taken food out of other families mouths by not paying them? Does that mean because she posts "helpful hints" she's an ok person? Not in my eyes. Actually, there's very few Bloggers that I respect. Because most of the time it's a dog & pony show. I'd like to add that though a lot of these snark blogs step over the line, I think about all the Internet scammers out there (April Rose ring a bell?) that have fueled the rage of the public.
Anon 11.25,
Tell the truth about what? How she colored her pancakes or edited her photos? Do you know how petty that makes mwop sound? Or how hypocritical since they can't tell the truth either.
You know what, mwop needs to get over the fact that a blogger deleted and moderates their comments, since almost every single blogger (including their favorites) do the exact same thing. It's was her blog, it's her facebook, twitter, instagram and she can do whatever she wants on them, just like anyone else.
If mwop ever really wanted to be serious then they would have held themselves to the same standards that expect of JM, but since it's laughingly clear that they don't, I can't imagine how anyone with basic logical and reading skills could take them seriously.
Now McPrisonNuts over there expounding on what the courts and the IRS are going to do. Guess what, Lindycakes? In all likelihood NOT A DAMN THING.
Get. Over. It. If it wasn't already abundantly clear, MWOP lost. Get. A. Life.
And anon 8:45? Understand. There is nothing wrong with Xyng. Nothing. Google "deaths attributed to Xyng". Big fat goose egg. It's a lot less dangerous than waddling around in size 24 or whatever. Get over it. The MWOP approved opinion doesn't matter. It never ever mattered.
Bring down the curtain folks. Jen won this one.
@ anon 12:59 That is a great point!
Yet another organized campaign by mwop. You would think they get that by now......that any organized campaigns should be kept underground.
Off the top of my head I remember them organizing to:
-call cps
-contact Jennifer's sponsors (anyone remember all the names of the sponsors they contacted over the years.....I remember breast pumps. Ha!)
-contact xyng
-contact the court
-contact Gene Doeling
-contact the school district where her kids go to school.
-contact the gym where she worked out
-contact her charities
-contact Focus on the Family
On a personal note they led 3 different campaigns to have my facebook account deleted. They did this publicly on mwop.
Well, that's off the top of my head. Can anyone add anymore organized campaigns that mwop has done?
@anon 11:25. I think about those dam pancakes every day. It makes me weep. I feel so lied to.
:)
I would love a day where things of this nature were my biggest concern. Do people really have lives like that?
Yes anon 5:57- if only she'd tell the truth about the pancakes! That would make up for alllllllllll the lies and half truths of the past.
Now THAT is some awesome logic right there.
Good job Mckmama for dropping the blog.
The only reason she "dropped" the blog is because she is fully aware that it will, most likely, be taken as part of her assets from her BK. And that is the only reason.
I don't support MWOP, but I'm also really tired of JM in some ways. For all the hatred of MWOP, everyone knows of the audio tapes and the transcription and what was said about her site. If she had said that as part of her BK deal-since she has acknowledged it-she was losing her current webskte and mycharmimgkids was no more...then I could really, honestly respect her. But instead she made it about God, her husband and whatever. If the chances that the Bk was NOT going to take her website didn't exist...she wouldn't be ending the website. She oely stopped blogging, slowly started removing the adds, started instigram, made facebook her primary place for posting.
It was all planned on her part. And that is FINE!! But it would have gained her far more points to be honest as to why she's shutting the site since people are aware of it.
Do I think she will open another site? Most likely. I don't know. But her addiction to instigram and facebook completely negates the message she sent on her og that this was made to increase her time with her kids and god and her husband.
I don't think jm lies NEARLY as much as MWOP hasade her too. Bjt she isn't/dodn't tell the truth this time and I really wish she had. Because she would have gaind that much more respect in my eyes.
Anja is passing over MWOP to Peta and Shell, within the next week. Maybe the snake is dying?
Barb, do you have any proof that they organized to contact CPS or the school district? Focus on the Family happened before MWOP even existed, maybe even before OHIH, so if you recall an organized campaign, you imagined it. I remember a discussion about who had already contacted Xyngular and some people saying they were going to contact the trustee, but I don't remember those being organized. And as to the breast pumps, I don't remember MWOP organizing for that one either, but I read about it on Free Jinger, so I think a lot of people contacted them.
Dearest Barb,
Are you absolutely certifiable!?
No one called CPS! As a matter of FACT, when one commenter stated that it should be done, she was pounded!
I did contact XYNG when she exposed my PRIVATE email to hundreds of strangers without my consent!! She was speaking as a rep for their company and this email SPAM was in violation of their own terms!!
Please add to your list this---I contacted/filed a formal complaint with the FTC also. Sending email addresses out as she did is illegal. THEY have an active investigation regarding her.
I wasn't around during the Focus on the Family/charaties days. However, they obviously found validty to the complaints made against/about her or else why would they have dumped her? Unless, you're going to add Focus on the Family to your "big old bullies" mantra.!?
The court and Mr. Doeling?!!! I have a screen shot of hundreds of pages that 'someone', hhmmm, YOU sent. YOU HURT JENNIFER!! YOU!!! With this info, you single handedly called her out on her game of hide and seek the money!! YOU CONTACTED THE COURT AND MR. DOELING!
Barb-Jenn has dissenters that live in her community. Dissenters that use the same YMCA. Dissenters whose children attend the same school. You are lying when you say that MWOP condones seeking her out in those locations. Again, whenever something like that is suggested, that poster gets pounded!! Rightfully so.
Here is one thing that I have come to conclude about the 3-4 sites that discuss 'MckMama' good, bad or indifferent. Besides all of them catering to the lowest common denominator ('MckMama'), they all include you! That is known as reflective glory. Use google to find out what that means!
I feel bad for you. With so much passion and you choose to defend an obvious liar. You fight for her rainbow colored pancakes!! So shallow. So sad.
Sheesh...I'm anon 10:56...sorry for all the typos. I'm not used to this new mobile!
Some of you say that MWOP "lost".
The rabidly commenting members of MWOP have certainly lost in regards to their own message. They are massive bullies, they demand things of Jennifer that they themselves are incapable of doing or they have done the very things that they accuse Jennifer of.
Yet: They did contact blogher and Jen's contract was terminated(she did things against the contract and so it was fairly terminated...but I don't know if WHAT she did deserved such reporting). They did contact advertisers...and some did end contracts. I fully believe that the majority of what MWOP has done is wrong. However....MWOP won this round. Not JM.
How did they win? By cutting the contracts, lessening her readers, and creating doubt (some of it absurd some of it legit).
MWOP also won, again, by jennifer not being fully open about why she has stopped the blog.
Again: I don't agree with so much of what MWOP has done. The majority frankly. The comments section disgusts me. But...jennifer lost. She's lost her site. She's lost followers. And if she had been "honest" about her BK, and a few of ther other facts that MWOP "exposed"(though exposed is a bit silly as anyone could find some of the information) when it happened, instead of denying it...then she wouldn't have lost the followers she had.
And, again, jennifer shows a lack of "honesty" when instead of saying "this blog will be ending because of the possibility that it will be taken as part of my assets.."
She states the poetic reasons she did. And that, for me, really lessens Jennifer in my eyes as SO many deal with the reality of BK and she could have shown some incredible "piece of life" since she always shares so much. Instead, she went with the flowery, rainbow, God and children reason and that bothers me.
Anon 7:30,
What did MWOP lose?
Who cares why she let the blog go? WHO CARES? If you're half-way normal, it shouldn't effect your life one little bit. Why would you care what she says? (you being a collective you) How does she keep so many otherwise (mostly) normal people so hung-up and invested in everything that drips off her keyboard?
Anon 10:56,who is it you think she's trying to score points with? MWOP? Surely everyone's over that delusion by now. I'd also say that MWOP doesn't have one clue about what the bankruptcy resolution is going to be.
Maybe she'll blog again, maybe she won't. Either way, it's her life.
Half truths and lies according to whom, mwop? Please, no more....I am getting a stitch in my side from laughing so hard already about mwop logic, I'm not sure I can take any more. Oh heck, go ahead, I can take it. :)
Thank you, Anon 10:56. That's the kind of truth I'm talking about that the non-crazy Mwoppers want. I personally don't give a shit about the "dam" pancakes either.
Oh my.
I just saw this on MWOP:
DING_DONG_in_a_DITCH, Pucker, push and liquify your way to a skinnier you!!!
On the off chance that Mr. Doeling or Judge O'Brien pops in to read here for the fun of it...
Really? Does she really think that Gene Doeling or the Judge reads her drivel? Oh my goodness. I have so many come backs here. But I won't post them. I wouldn't want to offend people.
She's going to Dubai!!!
Hello?
btw contrary to what mwop is portraying.....according to my son who went to Dubai a few years ago.......it was awesome.
So...how exactly is Jen not being forthcoming about what MWOP thinks the reasons for her closing the blog a "win" for MWOP? She tells the truth - they forced her! Win! She lies. They forced her! Win! Fact is MWOP, bullies and all, can "demand" what they like from Jen. She doesn't give a rat's butt. Where that flock of losers gets off 'demanding' anything from anyone, I don't get at all, but that's a different story.
Jen does exactly what she wants. Buys homes, travels, ditches her husband, takes him back, homeschools or not...none of it reflects MWOP influence one tiny bit. MWOP is just some chattering Greek chorus commenting on things over which they exert no influence.
And no, she's not getting her passport yanked, thrown in jail in Dubai, stopped at customs...none of it. MWOP can just keep fantasizing away.
I'm not surprised Anja is getting rid of it. It's an embarrassment.
Nice try Anon September 27, 2012 11:33 AM. Anja isn't passing anything off to me at anytime.
Barb you are off your rocker! MWOP isn't "organized", if certain people choose to do the things that you say you do, it's on them not MWOP at a collective
As far as calling CPS-not sure if anyone actually has done it. People that have mentioned it have gotten ripped by the others for stating it.
Jen's Sponsors-Not sure again other than if someone was "contacted" it was because Jen was doing something illegal. Jen isn't a rule follower so it's no big surprise if by her own stupidity she lost her sponsors on her own.
Contacting Xying-People who contacted Xying was because they were on an email list ILLEGALLY. Jen again is no rule follower so it's no surprise that she herself would get herself in trouble with Xying. She also states "medical advice" when really she shouldn't.
Contact the court & Gene Doeling-Uhm didn't you do the exact same thing you are accusing MWOP of? Didn't you single handedly give them all the information they needed to know about Jen and her hiding of assets? No matter how you spin it, you had a HUGE hand in Jen's BK case. You reflected her in a very negative light. She lied on the paperwork, you handed the court all the information they needed on a silver platter.
Contacted the school district-Again if anyone did this, it's on them NOT MWOP as a whole. IF anyone has said they did, they have been ripped for stating it.
The gym where she works out-She lives in an area where there are sightings of her, they aren't stalking her, they too are working out, eating dinner, etc. with their own families. Her taking photos in the gym is against the rules and if I was a member of the gym and saw someone do that, I would report her as well. Why should she have special treatment because she is a "public figure"?
Contact her charities-The only time I can recall anyone contacted a charity was when Israel was going with her to Africa with Compassion. He has a DOMESTIC VIOLENCE charge (which Jen admitted it was her fault, she lied to get him in trouble because she was mad at him) and should NOT have ever been allowed to go. Having someone convicted of a DV does not reflect a Christian Charity in a good light.
Contact Focus on the Family-Whoever did that again was on them. It was not an organized campaign. She was lying to a company who promotes family togetherness and all the while she had her husband tossed in JAIL for something she did. She isn't an honest person and people called her out on it.
Barb, I think it's great you want to give Jen the benefit of the doubt but really how can you when all of her LIES add up? I could understand if none of her lies could be proven but they all are. Her own words in her BK case shows that she's not honest. You need to lift off the blinders and see all the dishonest things Jen has done. She is her worst enemy. No one held her hand and made her go shopping. No one forced her into buying houses she couldn't possibly afford. No one forced her to buy the cars she couldn't afford. No one forced her to lie on the paperwork. All the criticism she gets, is deserved. Had she lived her life like she portrays it on her blog, I don't think people would have so many issues and go looking for the lies. She stole money from people, she is stealing money NOW by not paying her taxes and by not paying her bills. I am sure the ex-employee would LOVE to have the money that is owed to him, why don't you use your powers of good to help him get what he is owed? Maybe he needs someone like you in his corner. Why do you want to defend Jen? She can defend herself, she could set things right and JUST TELL THE TRUTH for once in her life. She could have easily done it with the "Good-bye" post and chose to spin it as it was "god" telling her it was time to stop.
Anja please put a sock in the mouths of these women. They are off their rockers.
Anja they will be calling the state department demanding they revoke her passport. Please tell them to stop because they are making complete fools of themselves and you.
A requirement to comment at MWOP should be a mental health exam. Anja you may consider adding that as a TOU. CRAY CRAY doesn't even begin to describe these women.
Ummmmm..SHe is closing the blog down because it is up for sale by the BK attorney.
@anon 1:08pm & 1:42pm
Lindsi L.B. clearly stated & of which yes I do have the screenshot:
CPS HAS been called.
This is a declarative sentence. I was going to do a piece on my blog about the cps stuff but with Jennifer closing down her blog I've decided not to open mine. After the bk is done I will be fading off into cyber space. I have other things in my life that I want to concentrate on. Just being actively involved since January documenting MWOP has been very distasteful. I want to concentrate on good & happy things in my life. I don’t like being around hate. It infects your soul just by reading it.
Part of a quote on Lindsi’s Facebook is:
“Lord I want to feel with Your heart And see the world through Your eyes I want to be Your hands and feet I want to live a life that leads.”
I don’t understand Lindsi, I really don’t.
For ONE example of MWOP's organized efforts to contact businesses/associates of McKinney's please go to my Facebook page and read the album titled: MWOP TRIES TO GET MCKINNEY FIRED FROM LATEST JOB. They did this on two different occasions. Their point person the first time at Xyngular was Bob, the second one was Stephany. Of which they posted contact information for each on MWOP. Thanks Ladies! Little did they realize that Xyngular would be getting screenshots of how MWOP characterized their products.......oh gosh and the xyng screen names they used at the time. Priceless......for example: xyngcrackular. THEN one posted that STEPHANY was Jennifer’s main chemist.....you know for the drugs she was pushing. Thanks Flawed like a Ducking Onion! I’m sure that went over real well with Stephany! ;)
For another example of an organized effort by mwop.....if I cared to I could upload my letter and exhibits that I finally was forced to send to Facebook after MWOP had an organized campaign (once again publicly on MWOP) to have my Facebook account deleted. If you ladies want to lie about what I was reported for.......I can post it. MWOP reported me for posting anti-bullying info on McKinney's Facebook. Then the real KICKER is MWOP reported me for "sexual content" after showcasing their screenshots that McKinney tries to attract pedophiles. THEN they reported me for "illegal drug" content when I posted screenshots of their characterization of Xyngular as......meth, cocaine, crack pills, drug dealer etc. etc. etc.
These types of campaigns have happened time and time again. Anyone that reads over there has seen it. So feigned denials are just a manipulative tactic.......which is typical for mwop as with any hate group or individual abuser.
The FTC has an active investigation because ONE email was sent out. BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh my goodness. It never ends. :D
Tell me anon 1:42pm have you at least gotten over the colored pancakes? Have you contacted Mrs. Butterworth yet?
Also dear anon 1:42pm I contacted the court after watching mwop go after Jennifer McKinney time and time again. I did this on 2 occasions. I haven’t done it for years like mwop. If a question comes up I can’t run to my screenshot cavern and pull out a specific article or screenshot. Comparatively speaking what I have documented is not even a drop in the bucket compared to mwop’s archives. Not a drop.
@anon 1:46pm. MWOP hasn’t won. They have lost their dignity. They have lost their humanity. Adult women participating for YEARS on a hate site that targets one mommy blogger is hardly “winning”. That’s certainly not my idea of winning. Sad if you ask me. Astoundingly hollow.
Anon 9:12AM
You forgot that they (MWOP) ALSO contacted Reece's Rainbow. That was the straw for me at MWOP. I dislike JM however what MWOP does is disgusting......
she is getting it taken away by bankruptcy it was never her choice.. she is wonderful at twisting the truth
Anon 9:12, that wasn't long enough. Really, post more.
Yawn.
Barb, how do you figure "CPS has been called" means MWOP called? Israel was arrested for domestic abuse twice. I hope CPS was called by the county when that happened.
How did MWOP try to get Jennifer fired from her job? She's not a Xyngular employee, she's self-employed. Oh wow, MWOP posted the names of 2 customer service reps from Xyngular, so you sent them screenshots of MWOP screen names? I bet they looked at for 10 seconds, laughed and put your nonsense in the trash pile.
And I reported you to Facebook, not to have your account deleted, but to have your images removed. You did bully a woman on Jennifer's Facebook page. You took screenshots of her profile, added rude comments about her dating preferences and started posting in Jennifer's comments both drawing attention to your screenshots and berating her. Several of Jennifer's followers told you they thought you crossed a line and you lashed out at them too. That was bullying, so I reported it. I noticed the image was removed. I didn't see MWOP organize to have you deleted, I saw 2 comments explaining how to report images on Facebook. And you deserved it, you were bullying people.
Barb, you've been down in the mud with MWOP for a long time. If Jennifer had 10 followers like you, she'd be running the same pack of bullies as Anja.
Is it true that the moderator at MWOP (Anja) is transferring ownership and all moderator duties to two women named "Peta" and "Shell?"
Is that why they're having scheduled technical upgrades done to the site? Because Anja's finally washing her hands of MWOP? Would she do such a thing in such a sly manner and not announce/warn the readers there?
Wasn't Shell another one of the Internet's most infamous trainwrecks? If so, I hope everyone knows ahead of time that when they post on MWOP (if she's in charge) that their personal information will be made public and will be in the hands of someone who is emotionally unstable.
I can't believe Anja would do such a dirty and underhanded thing as to hand off the site to Shell. She's lost all of my respect.
Anon September 29, 2012 9:15 AM I can tell you with completely certainty that Anja is not passing the blog to me. I wouldn't touch the blog with a ten-foot pole. I don't know who is your source, but it's wrong.
-shell
Reece's Rainbow was contacted because it went through Jennifer's paypal first. Why? Did she get a cut?
Anon 9.12,
Any proof that she isn't currently paying her bills and/or taxes? Psst, having a payment plan with the IRS means one is paying taxes.
It sounds like you are one of the highly obsessed women of mwop. I'm so sorry.
@ anon 8:31a.m. Since you didn't heed my warning and are spinning a web of deception about me....I did put together a little sampling of MWOP's public campaign to have my Facebook account deleted. It's open to the public on my Facebook page.
Mind you this isn't the whole thing I sent to Facebook but enough to show you that what I have stated is true.
I would really like to challenge you to provide screenshots of all of these bad things that you claim I do. It's all smokescreens and mirrors with you people. As I have stated before this "bullied woman" was a fake account and I figured it out and you people didn't like it.
Not only have there been multiple campaigns to have my Facebook account deleted you people can't even stand the fact that I post over here and hence come over here with the name calling, derogatory comments etc. It pretty much showcases what MWOP is all about. I don’t see how you seem to think that this type of behavior bolsters your position.
From what I heard it is this PETA chick saying she wants it, shell is just in the background pulling the strings. She wants the blog back but knows Anja won't hand it over to her. I have been told that it is going to be hosted in Australia now, where this no name PETA lives.
Anon 143- you are wrong. I donated to Reece's during that time and it did not go through JM's PayPal.
Anon September 29, 2012 8:41 PM what you heard is wrong too. I'm not pulling strings. If, and that's a big if, Anja is giving the blog to someone it's not me, has nothing to do with me, and I'm not pulling any strings. I don't want the blog. I don't want anything to do with the blog. Jennifer Mckinney is boring and predictable - at least she was the last time I read her. I don't care about her. I don't care about her life. And I certainly don't want a blog full of readers dedicated to nit-picking her every move.
I do wish I were as all powerful as people in comments here think I am with the pulling of strings and what not. Imagine how much easier homework hour would be!
-shell
I agree the poster who claimed Reece's Rainbow went through JM is wrong, the link was directly to RR, it did not go through her paypal.
I don't think you are powerful shell, but I also don't believe you aren't involved either, after all you certainly read here. You had a blog full of readers dedicated to nit-picking her every move, lol.
I think the shell protests too much. ;)
I am a longtime lurker here and use MWOP to read the legal documents when they are posted. I came here because I agree MWOP is way too picky and can go to far, but I don't agree with Ms. Murtha's tactics either.
Ms. Murtha, phrases you use here such as "Since you didn't heed my warning..." are not cool. I hope Lauren or Mel or whomever is monitoring take your words seriously. I do. They are threatening and bullying and go against why many of us are here.
I had no idea who this Ms. Murtha was until she posted here and decided to look at her "pictures" on facebook. I then put two and two together and realized that she is BMM. Ms. Murtha, your intent may be to help Jennifer, but you have not. And please stop bringing your brand of crazy over here. It is one of the reasons I came here - to find some kind of balance to the crazy on MWOP and elsewhere. Your threats and intimidation are not welcomed by the regular folks. Maybe you should go ahead and write your blog so you have somewhere to put your thoughts.
(and if you wonder why I am referring to her as "Ms. Murtha" - during my research of her posts today trying to figure out who she is, I came upon a posting online by her former sister-in-law who says her brother would prefer his name not be brought up.)
-back to lurking
Anon 5:30
If you believe JM has a payment plan with the IRS then I have ocean front property for sale in Arizona. She tells people what they want to hear, she said she paid her mortgage yet she lost 2 homes to foreclosure, she said she had a mortgage on the house in Becker and yet turns out she had a contract for deed, she said she paid her car payments but yet again she lost 2 cars to the repo man. For a woman who made a lot, a lot of money she sure knows how to blow it as quickly as possible! They really could have been living a comfortable life and yet they blew the money on trips, cars, houses, boats, expensive high end clothing, computers, and fancy phones. I guess she figures you only live once so you better enjoy it while you can and deal with the consequences later.
"lurker" 2:47.... Stalk much? Jeez. "During my research...", seriously? Who gives a crap what her ex-husband "prefers"?
Honest to God, MWOPPERs are the biggest nut jobs on the Internet. And foe the record, 2:47, most of your post explaining how uninvolved you are reads like complete BS.
Anon 1:40, I think you're mixing up shell with leah. Shell created the original forum template (mwoptalk) but then it was turned over to leah, who was responsible for the snarkable stuff on the SWS forum. not shell.
I'm pretty sure it was listed in the bankruptcy documents, might want to check that. ;)
I don't know what she figures, I will live that up to you mind reading mwop sheeple.
@ anon 2:47pm. I'd really like the link for that former "sister in law" that doesn't want my brother's name brought up. Please send Lauren a screen shot where he was brought up.
My oldest brother is married. Granted this is his second marriage......I do believe the second marriage has hit or is coming up on the 20 year mark. He has no contact with the first wife.
My second brother died in 2010 and had been divorced for years.
My third brother has never been married.
I have no other brothers.
btw I haven't gone by my maiden name since 1981. I included it in my Facebook page to hook up with people from my childhood & high-school that might not know my name change.
Me, not cool? Grrrrrrrr. Ha!
I know Shell. She isn't taking over MWOP and isn't involved. She has too much going on and wants NOTHING to do with MWOP. NOTHING, nada, zilch. She has too much going on with her personal life (children and the twins that are due this Spring) to be involved with MWOP at all.
Oh goodness anon 2:47pm you are not connecting me to PA Congressman John P. Murtha are you?
If so the congressman was born in 1932. My Dad was born in 1925 & my Mom in 1927.
I'm sure shell appreciates you announcing her pregnancy on a bully site. Wow Jennifer (jos?) you are as supportive as Barbara here for mck scams.
Here you go, Barbara:
http://getoffmyinternets.net/mckmama-closing-her-blog/comment-page-2/#comment-206548
And ms. murtha maybe the post on GOMI is your former sister in law?
Wow Anon 1.31, because someone said it on the internet it must be true, lol.
Oh and Jennifer, shell's posting here so clearly the ties are not cut completely.
To the mwop sheeple who were complaining about JM not giving a thumbs up to a facebook poster who wanted prayers for a little boy. Did you bother looking at the person's facebook page or were you too blinded by the mwop kool aid you drank? I wouldn't give that woman a like either, just based on the little I could see on her facebook page.
Where's the poster that always comes on to say shell hasn't been around in months?
@all the anons that claims my "sister in law" is on gomi. Answer me this riddle and perhaps I might take a gander:
What was the name of our family pet when I lived outside of the Buffalo area?
I went over to gomi a week or two ago? My name was mentioned. I responded with my real name. The moderator "partypants" made a false statement in response to my comment. I tried to post a response. It didn't go through. I posted another and took a screen shot of it. Emailed little ms. partypants and asked her why my comments weren't being posted. She then posted my two comments that she had been holding and made a comment stating something like "what the heck are you talking about your comments are right here". That was all I needed to know about gomi. Won't be back.
Once again it is tactics like this "mwop anon's" that showcase what bullies mwoper's are. You are drama queens looking for your next fix. What's the matter aren't the instagram photo's doing it for you anymore?
Did the woman on Facebook want Jennifer to like her own page, or like the page of the little boy?
The post I saw asked her to give a thumbs up to her message, she didn't link the page for the little boy. I didn't see any past ones but then I don't normally read all of the comments or track them like the mwop sheeple do.
Barbara. Don't let them get to you! They want to upset you! You know they are psycho bullies. You don't have to defend yourself. We know you are being targeted because that's what they do!
That ridiculousness over that woman who kept endlessly repeating her "thumbs up" request and the other ones commenting on it was just typical. Why women who don't like Jen feel the need to stalk her FB page, I don't get.
It's a weird internet phenomenon where a bunch of busybody women think they can actually effect a medical outcome by nattering on and on about it online, and somehow it's Jen's fault that the child is dying because she's not "thumbs upping". Weird.
Wow, you do realize the ONLY reason anyone knows who Jennifer McKinney is because she did the EXACT same thing, except instead of thumbs up, it was write stellans name.
@anon 1:52pm. I thought the same thing. All one would have to do is post the link themselves on Jennifer's facebook. End of story. Since none of them did that it made me really doubt their intentions. Do they really think that people don't see through that?
@anon 5:26pm. Mwop doesn't get to me, but thanks for the support! They made up the sister in law story to try and get back at me for publishing an album on Facebook documenting how mwop had an organized public campaign to have my Facebook deleted. They are very young emotionally. Mean girls on steroids.
Dream on party people!
Anon 11.15, I don't remember Jennifer posting that type of messages on people's facebook accounts over and over when ignored. She did that EXACT same thing? Oh wait...backpedal now, lol.
Anon 1:52 The ridiculousness, as you put it, isn't about Jennifer ognoring this woman's request...it's all the request she has ignored. I did fundraiser today for the hospital my very sick infant was in 8 years ago. Jennifer requested that everyone send photos of stellans name. She had people praying. To repay all these strangers who were praying, worrying, caring about this stranger on the Internet, what did Jennifer do? Post contests about screen catching the 1 mill visitor, tweet how bad things were getting and then tweet " we just said goodbye to Stellan" and than go silent for HOURS..turns out she meant goodbye for the night. Has Jennifer ever Paid it Forward? Has she helped raise awareness of SVT or donated to any heart causes or done anything with her blog? I'm sure many people will say she doesn't have to, and they are right. But, when you ask for and receive the attention, donations, concern etc from your readers and then can't be bothered to answer a post on FB than yeah, we are going to judge you. And yes, I do judge others..we all do. In my opinion, Jennifer is all all about what the world owes her and what she can get out of it. I am amazed at the lengths people go to on MWOP to trash her and I am also amazed at the lengths her supporters will go to support anything she does. Some people are put of their minds..on both sides
Sorry about the typos...can't edit on the iPad or i just don't know how to scroll up
Anon 2.08, you are wrong.
One doesn't "repay" people who pray for them and if that's what you think then I suggest you talk to a minster, pastor or whatever to understand prayer.
Oh and newsflash, it's that persons blog, facebook and twitter, they get to decide what they post on their walls so to speak. If you don't like it, there is a little x in the upper right hand corner and clear your history. Problem solved.
Anon October 7, 2:08 PM, I hope your child is OK. I can't imagine what you went through having a seriously ill infant. You are awesome to pay it forward and have a fundraiser for that hospital! You are one of a kind girl! I read your message one time. I concentrated on your nightmare - when your child was seriously I'll and the good you are doing. I chose to not re-read the rest of your post because I think it may have sounded judgemental. Like I said I did not re-read your post because I don't want to know if you judged someone in a scary situation that you don't know personally. You are awesome for "paying it forward"!
Anon 6:17 newsflash but I'm not Christian nor do I really believe in God but I do believe if you ask for prayers, money, help when you are in need, you dont ignore others when they are in need. It is that person blog or Facebook but when it's public I can choose Not to click the red X. She can decide what to post and how to portray herself to the public and the public can comment on it.
Barb, Jennifer doesn't allow others to post links on her Facebook, so how could they have posted it there themselves? Also, the person who claims to be your ex-sister-in-law posted on GOMI on September 27th. You didn't publish your album until September 29th. How is that MWOP trying to get back at you for something you hadn't even done yet?
@anon 9:05pm I've posted links on Jennifer's Facebook with no problem so I'm not sure where you are coming from on that issue.
I've only been over to gomi one time that I can remember. I didn't go back and check the dates but if they are as you claim.....mwop did it in retaliation for my other postings. Just in this thread alone I made a comment on September 27th highlighting a few of mwop's escapades. I can assure you anon 9:05pm it wasn't my sister in law that posted over there. That being said do you think some random person on the internet decided to do it all of a sudden out of the blue? I think the probability of that is quite low. My money is on mwop.
I wonder what mwop is going to do for drama with Jennifer's blog gone + I won't be fodder for much longer? I guess it will be Instagram time over and over again.......maybe just maybe Jennifer will posts some more shots of her feet! Holy moly sounds riveting.
:)
Barb, I guess you haven't heard the news.
There is no mwop. You can say a person who posts on the mwop site but that doesn't narrow it down. Mwop is not and organization or a real club. It is just a site. Don't give it power. No one knows if its barb's sil or not. If I were barb, I'd try to make it look like someone else, too. There is no proving this stuff.
Ooops.....this account is private.
My oh my what is MWOP to do now that Jennifer's instagram is now private? That leaves just her Facebook for fodder.
I do hope that they don't now focus on the CF husband as some of them seem to be doing on the temporary server. Much like piranhas going after a piece of bloody meat dropped in the water.
Anon 2.14, I'm confused. You have beliefs about prayer but don't really believe in God, so who exactly are you praying too and/or expecting other to pray to? Why are you judging prayer?
Just so you know, many of those comments that you (and others) feel they have the right to post, say much more about the one making the comment than the other person.
Where oh where did MWOP go? Hummm... I think "the snake is dead". :-D
Huh? MWOP has hundreds of comments today and BWOP? Not so much. Looks like the "B" is much deader. Sssssssssssss
If you can't find it, good for you.
Gee, hundreds of comments today...I wouldn't be proud of that given their content.
I don't necessarily understand all the domain stuff but MWOP spent a lot of time talking about JM selling her blog domain. Now that MWOP has a new domain did they sell they old one? It redirects now, so did someone buy it? Did anja get the $60,000 it was supposedly worth? These are just questions not accusations, just stuff that is beyond my pay grade.
4:11, no, they still have the domain (anja, probably?), it's just not linked to a hosting contract right now.
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