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This is not Lauren.
I'm only posting after speaking with Lauren and she said it was OK for me to do this.
I will keep this short and to the point.
Lauren is not responsible for what others post. People have their individual opinions and make personal choices about people. What they choose to say is their opinion and their own words they must be accountable for.
The only thing Lauren has asked is that the foul language be kept in check. That NO CHILDREN be discussed and that no one leave this site with information and harasses any individual discussed here. Keep the discussion here and you will not be censored.
Not everyone is going to have the exact opinion as yourself, please try and be respectful to one another. It is fine to disagree, that's human nature. Just remember to do so with respect.
Lauren will be back hopefully by later in the weekend. With movers and packing going on she is unable to be online at this time.
122 comments:
I'm not sure if everyone here reads Mwop or not. If you don't read there I just found a comment and it made me laugh so hard I had to share because my dog thinks I'm silly for laughing so hard.
"Don't let it get to you. There will always be people who feel the need to comment on other people's decisions. Why do you have so many/why don't you have more/when are you going to have one? YOU are happy with your decision, nothing else matters."
Are you kidding? The part I laughed the hardest about was PEOPLE WHO FEEL THE NEED TO COMMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S DECISIONS. Does this poster realize that is what 99% of the comments are on MWOP? OK I'm done I just had to vent because it really is so funny.
I agree about no children and keep it here. I noticed Mwop is now asking them to keep it on Mwop so I guess this site does make a difference, they are listening.
I think MWOP has always asked it's posters to keep discussions there and not on JM's boards. I doubt it was influenced by this blog :/
anon@8:17
If Anja was handling it she sure hasn't done a very good job over the last few days based on the info posted here with all the examples. Once this site started calling them out suddenly a new screen name (which was one of the called out people in hiding)posts requesting keep it here and surprise no obvious Mwop comments on Mckmama's FB or blog today.
I agree I think this site caused that to happen.
I agree that this site does help to keep the MWOPers accountable. Before yesterday they were ALL OVER Jm's site, but since it's ben discussed here recently they have cooled off. GOOD JOB BWOPers :)
Anon 8:36~
I agree with you. anja might have said to keep it there in the past, but she sure didn't do a great job at enforcing that, or even mentioning it until we started talking about it here.
I think Anja comes here to see what direction she should go. And it's a good thing! -Most- of the woman here have some common sense.
~SSA
Common sense? Oh my god. You people are so nuts.
No, the people that called CPS are nuts! From what I can gather it came from the suupor speschul Facebook group, and we all know who runs that racket. That's is disgusting wasting CPS's time and resources, nevermind scaring JM's children...... so if what we say here is nuts, I'll take it compared to what's going on at MWOP and The "group" on facebook. You all should be ashamed.....
Is that the super special facebook group that claims to have people that know mckmama's in the mix? Now again, what was the anon poster saying about backstabbing people that you know in another post....
I don't know whether to feel sorry for these people or laugh out loud.
Someone from MWOP has called CPS before. As a foster and adoptive mom I remember being so aggravated. The cases we have dealt with were pretty bad. Nothing in common at all with JM and her children. They need to lay off!
Anne
I do think some of the things JM has done, could benefit from having CPS or something of the sort investigate. The n*ked kid pics for example. That could very much put her kids in danger. But not to take her kids away, but to maybe get her some parenting classes, or something.
I don't think however that CPS needs to be involved because of goats in the house, or whatever other nitpicky crap they are talking about over there.
It is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that anyone associated with the MWOP blog or FB group would call CPS. There are DOZENS of cases of REAL CHILD ABUSE. Bringing goats in the house, not child abuse, taking your kids to the y and mcdonalds, not child abuse. BEATING, STARVING, NEGLECTING is CHILD ABUSE.
How dare they do that, they are taking their hatred for a blogger and trying to destroy her life. Those kids do not need that.
Did someone from MWOP seriously call CPS??? How do you know this? Show me the money!
"Someone from MWOP has called CPS before."
Who, and when???
Go check it out on MWOP, they're the ones responsible.
This was done in August and I do not remember who the person(s) were. They had actually stated that it was done. It really caught my eye and I kept checking back simply because of being a foster and adoptive parent. I disagreed very much with calling CPS.
Anne
This is who said CPS was called:
"mckcrazy4 8 comments collapsed
Collapse Expand From what I read on a facebook post on the MWOP page, CPS has been contacted. So, I don't think the kids being removed is too far out there. Think about it, we only see what she wants us to see, and that ain't very good at all! Can you imagine the stuff she is hiding?"
Now if you read McCrazy and her disqus profile(click on her activity) she lives in MN, so she says. Looks like McCrazy is a liar..in her comments one time she claims she has 2 children and another time it is 3 children? What did she lose a kid between posts? This is also the person who kept bringing up the MWoPfacebook page like she was trying to drum up business for them.
It is very interesting to go back and read the trouble makers past comments and it even helps you to realize who they REALLY are. You can change your anon name over and over but you can't change the things you have said in the past.
Every business or person they have called on MckMama is fueled by HATE not concern.
"This was done in August and I do not remember who the person(s) were."
"mckcrazy4 8 comments collapsed
Collapse Expand From what I read on a facebook post on the MWOP page, CPS has been contacted."
This is proof? Uhhmmmmmmmm, no. Sorry.
I could say right now that I heard there's a SWAT team waiting to bust into Mckmama's house and rescue her from armed bandits. Doesn't make it true.
I should've addressed my comment to ANON 8:55
"This was done in August and I do not remember who the person(s) were. They had actually stated that it was done. It really caught my eye and I kept checking back simply because of being a foster and adoptive parent. I disagreed very much with calling CPS."
I should add to this comment. After quickly scanning the archives here, it may have been July. It was in the summer. It was discussed here. If I'd have more time, I'd try to wade through all the comments back then.
Anne
Anne, do you really believe some random commenter on MWOP who (might have) said they contacted CPS?
Regardless, I thought MckMama was RVing and then in Africa last July? What would someone report to CPS? That she wasn't home, as usual?
Oh cool, so it's ok to out people and be nasty as long as you don't bring up Lauren's past? Gotcha.
It was crazy BMM who kept telling people CPS had been called.
Copied this comment by mwop eeve
"Any comment that mentioned reporting her was flagged. We don't want the blog involved. Thanks!"
Comment by Not Shelmo
"Hi toomuch2011,
Comments are being deleted because the blog and its moderators have decided they DO NOT want MWOP to be involved in this. I am fairly sure that they are owning their actions by saying do not comment about reporting JM."
I copied those two comments of MWOP's Aug. 6 post. I'm not very computer literate. Looks like the comments stating who did the reporting have been deleted.
Anne
"Anne, do you really believe some random commenter on MWOP who (might have) said they contacted CPS?"
They contact people on facebook, the bankruptcy judge/trustee, businesses and other bloggers who support her, hospitals, etc etc. What would keep them from contacting CPS?
Anne
Anne,
No kidding! They have contacted every other bank, judge, business etc. nothing would stop them at this point from contacting CPS. I won't put this on every MWOPer, however the few that are also adjoined with the facebook crew? Yeah that group is crazy & vindictive. They run over to MWOP bragging about their little group & also to plant the blame on MWOP. If I were Anja I would ask them to stop bringing up their FB group and keep their actions & bragging (shoulder patting) there.
Lauren,
A little daisy said this site is nothing now without S & L being here. That they kept this site going. Have you ever heard anything so damn funny in your life. I guess all the rest of us who comment here are nothing in their eyes.
This is beyond funny! Go ahead little daisies you sound like Mckmama's sheeple now.
Sorry Lauren I know you asked that we not bring it here but that was an attack towards all of us who post here.
Never mine I shouldn't have said that's who I think it is because I really don't have time to get in to a discussion right now..carry on ladies and I should be back on a regular basis by next week. The reason I deleted my comment above.
anon 12:48
I guess I was typing while you posted but I don't care what they say and you shouldn't either. Ignore
Lauren, I'd be one of those little "daisies" that said that, about L and S bringing a lot to the table here. I never said the site was nothing, just that they brought "order". My comment is still up at the daisy site if you want to see for yourself.
To be fair, I also said I enjoyed the conversations with others at this site as well, so I wasn't attacking everyone else who posts here. Anon 12:48 needs to get some new reading glasses or something.
I backed off here for awhile, because with you being gone a lot (I understand, real life is more important) this blog had a lot of trolls, and like mwop (I take a hiatus from reading there too when things get too wonky) too any trolls make the blog less than fun to read.
Now, I have no idea what happened with L&S and you or this blog. I don't really care, and I have no beef with any of ya.
But I do know that they helped to reign in some of the more ugly comments and tried to enforce people posting with a name. (it really makes the blog a lot easier to follow) I also think they brought a lot to the conversation here, same as Kate, Pamela, etc...
Now there seems to be a lot of anons, and less substance. :/
http://www.facebook.com/cathy.schmainda
^^Cathleen on MWOP.
And?
um, yeah, pretty sure she used her full name on there before, so gee, what a big revelation that was!
FL
Ooops sorry the third one should be
https://www.facebook.com/pages/MckMama-Lying-Liar-Who-Lies/235026943223098
Why does shell rule the MWOP world? Is she the only one who can make a page on Facebook?
A little birdie told me the MckMama WithoutPity persona is someone who knows her in real life.
Angel
"Why does shell rule the MWOP world?"
I don't see where anyone said this. Was this stated on mwop?
"Is she the only one who can make a page on Facebook?"
I can't find where this was stated either.
In case anyone is wondering who contacted CPS, I think I may have found the answer.
This girl -- Kristen AKA ArabellaFig -- needs to be answering to the authorities for her harrassing Twitter behavior. This girl actually had the nerve to copy the FTC. She's going to be shocked when she finds someone standing at her front door to serve her with papers.
ArabellaFig Kristen
@OtterTailCounty Private message me if CPS needs @Mckmama (Jennifer McKinney Parkers Prairie) address to investigate her child pornography
2 Dec
ArabellaFig Kristen
@OtterTailCounty I hope CPS is investigating @Mckmama posting pedophile keywords, naked pics of her kids and videos of them describing sex!
2 Dec
If anyone would like to share this over at MWOP, feel free. I don't comment on the site; they're just as sick as this Kristen character is.
@Anon 3:50 PM,
It seems like Shell is the first, last and middle person accused of starting something MWoP related. I'm just curious as to why.
-Angel
"All around you are people whose lives are filled with trouble and sorrow, and they need your compassion and encouragement." - Billy Graham
Reach out to someone today and encourage them with the love of Jesus Christ.
^^^Did you post the same thing on mwop?
I won't even step foot over there, Anon 7:19. The ladies here, I thought, might be a little more open to my message.
Just did some browsing at MWOP. They are accusing a new poster of being JM. The woman posts about her sad life and Siuan tells her to move on as the website is not a support group. Hilarious. What a hag. Everyone posts their sob stories there looking for some sort of validation. I can't stand Siuan.
Ann Church
I felt sorry for the new poster at MWOP :( Sure, she might be a fraud, but like someone else said....show some compassion. Even if she is would it kill them to be nice? What would that cost them? Siuan, she needs to leave the blog STAT! Such a mean mean person, I'm glad to see a few ladies step up and call out the others, perhaps my faith in the human race at MWOP has been slightly restored ;)
You know...as much as Jennifer Mckinney has done in the past to earn all that's said about her (she is, after all, the only blogger to have a site so heavily populated, so organized and so committed to calling her out so others don't find out the hard way -- whether you agree or disagree with that statement), and many would say it's all finally just catching up with her...
After reading her newest post a few minutes ago, I have to tell you, my heart breaks for her. Yes, I realize she was pedaling yet another product (lens) in the post, but everything else is just flooded with hurt from a broken heart. I'm thinking that Israel and her have decided to separate, and who could wonder with everything they've got going on right now -- a bankruptcy that's not going as smoothly as I'm sure they anticipated, multiple other legal problems with lawsuits, a rent escrow action, a bug infestation, an already unhappy and longtime struggling marriage and five children that cost a lot of money and require a lot of attention and love to raise. Add to that no active church home/family, and a very limited relationship with her family in general, along with being extremely isolated and cut off from everyone.
I can hate the things she's done. Even hate what she's become. But still have empathy and compassion for the pain she's going through. It's heartbreaking what has become of this.
I hope the ladies at MWOP will stop for a moment, dig down deep if they must, and find some compassion for her. She's a woman just like all of us. And right now, she's a broken woman.
I can't rejoice over that.
Although I feel bad for the poster at mwop who was getting treated poorly, I can't figure out why she would go to mwop of all places looking for support?
I agree. Why go to mwop of all places? Funny that Anja is now saying the TOA on her site say not to be rude. Wonder why she has been allowing all the rude comments for so long and just now saying something? Why has she not banned these people? Proud that so many stood up to the bullies who were being so mean to this lady.
Anon 11:28pm
You said it perfectly. I don't like what she has done but, I can't rejoice over what she has become either. I'm sad for her and her family. I hope they ease up a bit on her at MWOP. Stick to just the facts and let's not kick her when she is down. Mwop served it's purpose maybe now it's time to shut it down...... at least the comments.
E,
I agree 100%
MWOP should take a comment break. With JM saying how low of a point she is at right now it would be the right thing to do. Now do I think MWOP will do the right thing, of course not!
I stumbled upon this blog after googling a phrase which included bullies and no pity. After a good wasted hour pushing "older posts" and soaking in the self righteousness, I can say, with utmost earnest, that you are indeed doing that which you say you hate. I also find the anonymous commenting feature hysterical seeing as how four of the comments on here sound as if they were written by the same person. Lauren, perhaps? Good day, ladies.
Why was my comment deleted? There was nothing unkind; only the truth which appears to have been substantiated by your eagerness to censor.
Anon @5:04pm
Well first off there is this thing called SPAM. For whatever reason often the comment goes to SPAM and I have to approve it.
2nd I find it funny you have a problem with anon comments..yet *SHOCKER* you are commenting anon. How funny is that comment!
Finally, if you really stumbled upon this site why would you think the anon comments are from me? Hummmmmm sure sounds like someone who is trying to start trouble.
No, I don't comment anon. Why would I? I comment with my name and frankly I don't comment very often. Now if you had really taken the time to read the post I believe you would know that..but let's be honest here. You know that and you didn't just stumble upon this blog.
Good day to you too.
Anon 4:46,
Do you feel better now that you got that off your chest?
anon8:17,
I agree. How rude!
OT. I have been reading kellyskorner blog and have a question: Did she know an afroamerican person? or just the ones that she "help" you know I haven't seen any pictures in her church group at all of a black girl friend maybe Harper friends. Just curious.
What are you talking about, Freethinker? My daughter has no friends of color either. Know why? We live not too far from Kelly and our town is 99% white. That is certainly not why we live here but it is the racial makeup. Am I supposed to go out and find people of color to make friends with to prove I'm not racist?
Pendant
Shouldn't be too hard to make a MWOP blog (spelt exactly that way, NOT Mckmama without pity) facebook page with SHELMOO's (Michelle's) Pic as the profile pic? Hmmmmm.......
Freethinker,
If you are so curious why don't you go directly to the source and ask that question? And why do you think we would know the answer to that question?
You know the more Michelle Scott and mounts are talked about the more relevant we make them. They are nothing's, losers who don't deserve another mention. Seriously, please let them just fade away.
I thought Michelle Mountes was the original mwop owner, Can anyone confirm this?
Michelle mountes is shelmo. I cannot believe she was the original mwop. No way.
No I don't think she was either. The original MWOP had class.
Anon 8:41.
You're right, but there is only one person that would make that FB page and it's Shell. She's had it in for Lauren since porngate, and she's twisted enough to do something like this, of course with her side kick & Grand shellple Shelmo on her side.....
There will always be a select group of people within a larger group that are unfairly judged. Just as there is no doubt a set group of people within this blog's group, that are judged unfairly. You can't lump everyone who reads or comments on a blog, into one large group. Some may read it to pass time. Others may read it because they disagree with what the main topic of the blog has done. And yet still others may read it simply because they are curious as to what all the uproar is about. Curiosity is an ever abounding human trait. It is human nature to be curious. Just as not everyone here is "hateful", "vindictive" and "mean", Not everyone on MWOP is. It goes both ways. You can not judge another and expect to not be judged yourself. No one is perfect. The world is an interesting place because of the varied opinions and views. If I vote for one political group and you vote for the opposing side, does it mean we can't get along? If I am pro-life and your aren't, does it mean we have to hate each other? Same goes for the blogging community. You will inevitably clash with someone within it. You aren't going to get along with every single person you come into contact with. There will always be "hater" sites just as there will always be "devoted" sites. How you handle yourself is what matters. Don't become that which you so vehemently dislike and disagree with. In the end, it's all water under the bridge, and we all answer for our misdeeds. Food for thought.
People won't stop mentioning shell here because she is the one doing it.
9:12 did you consult your crystal ball or just pull that out of your butt? Unless you ARE Shell or Shelmo and created the FB page yourself there is no way you could know for sure.
I thought shells sidekicks were cate and violet, I have no doubts those two are involved somehow. At least violet, that bitch can't stay away from the drama either. Shelmo is just a sad little want a be. Wasn't she pining over her school lunch dude? Guess the running coach smartened up. Poor ugly Shelmo, can't get a man.
And the crazies are supposedly at MWOP? I see some crazies here that seem to think they are psychic.
Anon 9:31- You seem so obsessed with Shelmo's ability to get a man. Are you jealous? Do you not have one yourself, and feel the need to make fun of others? What a sad, pitiful life you must lead. Before you jump to the usual conclusions.."ooooo... it's Shelmo, here to defend herself.." I will save you the time. I am not Shelmo, I am not Shell. What I am, however, is appalled by the women here who focus on what they percieve to be the weakness of other women in order to try and belittle them. Autoimmune illness, outer beauty, whatever. All the traits of a bitter, mean bitch. You've seen perhaps one picture, and you think you know all you need to know about Shelmo and her ability to "get a man".
Now I will tell you what I know about you. As I said before, because yes, I've commented before, I know who you are. Not a specific name yet, but I'm getting closer, and when I figure it out? You'd better hide what secrets you have left, because the ones you already let slip? They'll be here for the ladies to pick through, as only the bwop women can do. I know that you're part of a small group who are bent on hating shell and shelmo, and you need to STOP. You need to crawl back to your little ugly place and go back to spewing your hatred with each other, because your little habit of becoming bored and needing to "leak" little things, here and there, and then running off to giggle? It's past old. It's mean, it's nasty, and it's going to bite you in your spiteful ass.
There is a deep and serious obsession going on here with Shell and Shelmo. Really unhealthy. How long since either of them have made themselves a 'public' figure? They have NO profile anymore, yet their names are continually and recurrantly rehashed. And the idea that 'they' are commenting under other names? Just a pathetic way to justify your continual harrassment of them. The conspiracy theories going on here make Mwop's more spurious commentors look rational, balanced and well-researched.
Christine
It's an obsession being fed by a little haters group, lately, but that's ok. I know who they are, and I have enough info of my own that would make their information look quite tame. People who throw stones should reeeelly check first to make sure their houses aren't made of glass. ;)
The fake facebook acct has been reported.
Hey Ladies:
Thank you for all the emails, I really appreciate you guys having my back.
The page has been reported and is now gone. WHOEVER made it...just a heads up Facebook takes this very serious and they have an entire department who works on things like this. They have the IP address and location of the person who created the page.
To the person who created the page..next time you are going to post pictures and claim them to be someone, you may consider posting the correct pictures LOL LOL LOL Just ask me and I will give you a correct picture if you are that interested in having one of me. :)
All is good now and I will say Facebook is so professional and was so easy to work with.
The movers arrive today and I will be traveling today but will check in later tonight or tomorrow.
Cheers
Has anyone noticed that MWoP (Anja) has always deleted any mention of this blog. Write BWOP on her blog and she deletes. Suddenly last night BWOP is all over MWoP talking about the FAKE Facebook acct and it is not deleted?
I tend to feel that MWoP looks really guilty right about now. I know Lauren and Shell have had their problems but Shell was kicked out of MWoP and is not welcome back so they are loving that everyone thinks it is Shell.
Anja why are these comments still up on MWoP? What Anja you are upset because people are trying to figure out who you are? Well we all know Shell knows who you are and since you are allowing Shell to be blamed for something you did I think Shell should out you. Shell if you are reading Anja is allowing others at MWoP to blame you for this FAKE facebook account.
Anon. Whatever time was... I forgot this site is only dedicated to bully the bullies of MWOP Right? the "other things about blogging" it's just a cover up. Thanks to prove a point!!
You should probably get your facts straight, Nursejane. Shell quit MWoP after being harassed by a MckMama follower; she was not kicked out. And how is Anja allowing Shell to be blamed for anything? There's nothing on MWOP even discussing Shell; it's all on BWOP! And how do we know that Shell knows who Anja is? These comments are becoming quite ridiculous lately.
Freethinker,
Honestly, only Kelly would know the answer to that.
Anon 9.46,
Wow, you might want to dial back the mean and nasty comments if you want to complain about the mean and nasty comments of others.
Disintegration Now!
Facts speak for themselves. Anja has gotten away from any association with Shell.
Facts speak for themselves. Shell had no problem giving out Pink's personal information so she would have no problem leaking Anja's if she felt threatened by Anja.
Facts speak for themselves. Shell is not welcome at MWoP. Anja sure isn't coming forward and telling anyone to leave Shell's name out of anything.
What is ridiculous is you speaking like you know more information. Now that is ridiculous!
"Shell is not welcome at MWoP."
According to who? If you're going to talk about facts, let's have some.
Lauren,
Keep doing what you are doing. It seems the HATERS have tried everything to bring you down and don't give in to them. PORN, Fake Facebook accounts and name calling. It just continues to prove who has class and who doesn't.
If Lauren wasn't hitting a nerve they would leave her alone. Instead they continue to try anything they can and it just makes Lauren come out on top once again. Sounds to me like Lauren is the winner here.
A Fan
Who cares about Shell? Everyone knows she can't be trusted, just ask Pink.
anon 9:26 am
Go away! We could care less about Shell. Her fan club is on her "secret facebook" page, go there to tell her how great she is.
Anon 10:39,
Here is the comment you're replying to:
" "Shell is not welcome at MWoP."
According to who? If you're going to talk about facts, let's have some.
January 30, 2012 9:26 AM "
Where is this commenter saying shell is so great, and why should this person go away, but not the other 27 anons who brought her up first?
This place makes no sense. If Lauren is the winner here, I don't know that it's something she should be proud of.
Just sayin' ;)
Did Lauren say she was proud of it?
I'm just sayin' ;p
I feel really bad for Jennifer. She thinks she has some real friends, but it looks like her "friends" are just using her to get information for mwop.
I am sickened that someone would stoop so low as to put that private information out there. It is one thing if Jennifer posted it on her fan page, this was her private page. And shame on Anja for posting that, I thought she was better than that.
Why is everyone at MWOP jumping to conclusions about a divorce? They are seperating no one said divorce. Also, I find it funny that JM and kingdom twindom & Ellyn Mccall from "profoundly seth" are all good friends now. Ellyn & Sarah (kingdom woman) recently both just went through seperating & reconciling with their husbands, garnered a lot of attention for them...... This is a ploy of JM & Israel. They will "be saved by god" after much blog fodder and go on to speak on how to"re-build a marriage from the ashes". Mark my words, THIS is how she will re-invent her blog & family!
I should also mention, yes it's crappy that Anja put that private FB page on her post, but JM is not dumb, she planted it and Anja too the bait. It's all a cat & mouse game. Those friends didn't betray JM, they are helping her ;)
*took*
I don't really see it as being a private thing, given how many people JM has on that super secret FB page (which isn't, but anyway). You don't share information like that with so many, many people and think it will stay under wraps.
It seems that for others to have their personal info released here that is taken from a super secret FB page is A-OK to you guys. But not MckMama and personal info that she put out on the internet?
Yeahokwhatever.
I am sorry but that is f---ed up to post screen shots. It makes me sick.
Anon 4:16,
Get over it already. I mean people are finally not talking about her so just leave it alone!
Anon 4:45:
You don't pay my bills. You're not the boss of me. Bite me.
Yeahokwhatever.
"You don't pay my bills."
Nor would I!
"You're not the boss of me"
And how old are we?
"Bite me."
Yuck! No thank you!!!
LOL. How old are we indeed!
Yeahokwhatever.
When my husband and I were separated, I did not say anything about it on my FB. In fact, we only shared it with close friends and family. For that reason it stayed under wraps and we also didn't owe a bunch of explanations when we got back together. I don't post things I want to remain private on FB or my blog. That being said, I feel squeegy about reading those screen shots. I think people just need to lay off. Whether it's manufactured or real, girlfriend is on the verge.
PP
Every time I come here I get a headache trying to follow the comments. Everyone is all over the place and against everyone. One comment is focusing on JM, the next, MWOP, then someone from MWOP, then someone from here, then speculation about who is who, then more about Jenn, more speculation about who did what...back to MWOP. All of that within like 20 comments! This is like the A.D.D. version of MWOP.
"WHOEVER made it...just a heads up Facebook takes this very serious and they have an entire department who works on things like this. They have the IP address and location of the person who created the page."
Just an FYI, an IP address and location means just slight of nothing. Unless you're president Obama and the FBI/CIA is going to look into it by seizing private records, there is nothing Facebook can do unless the person was stupid enough to tie their real name and address to the page (highly unlikely) and even then FB would likely do nothing unless the person is doing a lot more than creating a parody page.
I just don't want anyone to look or be naive enough to think that an IP address is anything significant. Ahem...you're welcome.
What is funny are the anonymous comments criticizing those here for calling out Shell on things. Ummm...the MWOPers call JM out on things all the time. They call her names, comment on her appearance and say some pretty cruel things about her. Then you come here and say we are the haters...funny stuff!
Sarah
Sarah, I'm sorry but do you see a public blog, a public FB page a public blog frog and public twitter for Shell where she is putting a life full of lies out there for everyone to support, question, or belittle? No? Didn't think so. Big difference.
Yeahokwhatever.
If anyone knows who Anka is, let's have it. She crossed the line and deserves to be held personally accountable. What a piece of garbage.
What are you going to do? Go stalk Anja? Make threats? She's anonymous for a reason. Not a public figure. Not plastering her life all over the internet.
Yup, sounds like a rocket good idea to me.
- Angel
The general tone of BWOP:
"MWOP is wrong! Do ALL we accuse MWOP of!!"
So much logic...
"What is funny are the anonymous comments criticizing those here for calling out Shell on things. Ummm...the MWOPers call JM out on things all the time."
But uhhh..isn't that why BWOP exist? To call MWOP out for the way they call out JM. IMO a great deal of the comments on this blog just one-ups MWOP on the hypocrisy. FFS a blog against "stalking" and "bullying" that stalks and bullies anyone whose personal information they can find?
"If anyone knows who Anka is, let's have it. She crossed the line and deserves to be held personally accountable. What a piece of garbage. "
The sad part is that this comment fits the general tone of this blog even though it's basically a want-ad for information to stalk someone with.
Anonymous 7:23,
Facebook, along with the victim in the case, can work together with the harasser's ISP to determine who it is that did the harrassing.
It takes a subpoena to request the records, that's all. Done all the time. My husband gets them all the time in his job.
But you're right...IP addresses and locations alone cannot do much. If, however, someone pursues it one step further, they can find out a whole lot about you, though. Such as every website you've visited, commented on, etc. It can be a very humiliating process for the anonymous poster, actually.
There are also federal and state laws in place that support Facebook's policy on impersonation online. Only a very stupid person would impersonate someone online -- Facebook or elsewhere -- add a picture of that person and communicate as though they were that person. Lots of tracking opportunities just in those few steps.
Lauren/Tina -- you're well within your right to request Facebook's assistance on this matter. You have the opportunity, if you so choose, to pursue legal action. The laws and the harasser's ISP are on your side as the victim. I would encourage you to look into it.
And to the person who thought they were being clever with this little prank of sort, there's nothing you can do at this point to erase the tracks you've made on your end. Canceling service with your ISP and going with another one won't even help. What's done is done. Clearly, you're not very bright whether you're from this site or any of the other sites you so regularly bash here.
And don't test me and think I'm not being truthful. I know that of which I speak.
Well, mwop has reached a new low and I didn't think that was possible. Posting someone's private facebook pages? Wow.
Angel, I don't give a crap if Anja is anonymous. What she does is bullshit. I would gladly contact her employer, family etc so they can know what she does so she can get a taste of her own medicine. She is not doing a public service, she is a fucked up hag. The other Mwopers were outed. Let's hope this one is too.
Oooooh, Stephanie, bringin out the threats! This is gettin fun!
I find it hilarious that shell has vicious guard dogs, trolling the internet ready to attack with the first mention of her name.
She must be weak and can't defend herself if she is having others do it for her. I feel really bad for her.
If she truly did not ask her "friends" to stick up for her and they're doing it on their own, then I feel bad for her friends who are making her look weak by default.
Anja needs to be outed.........
"Posting someone's private facebook pages? Wow."
Yeah really! Cuz everyone knows if you want to keep something private you post it on facebook.
Like I said, wait for the MWOP blog FB page...... hahahahaha I wonder who's pic it will feature. BUT it will not be "impersonating" anyone. It will simply be a FB page with the name MWOP blog.
I'll save you the trouble. I had 2 eggs, 2 waffles, beef sausage and a vanilla cappuccino.
Thanks. I guess I won't have to tell anyone how you read blogs at work against your husbands wishes,and once when you were 6 you cursed in church.
Anon 8.15,
That's not the point, but it's not surprising it was missed by some in the reaching for a new low for behavior on the internet.
Well, okay then, person who desperately wants Anja's info. You're not scary at all.
Wow.
- Angel
Anja is in Colorado.......
"Anja needs to be outed........."
I personally don't care to know her sexual preference. ;)
Anja is not the mod who was in colorado, that was shell who has not been a mid for several months.
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