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Friday, October 21, 2011

Thought For A Friday!

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18 comments:

Lisa said...

That's not necessarily true up there. :-P

From the last post (crap, 2 parts):

"Maybe she spells it Robin I don't know for sure."

Ah, yes, Robin, aka known as R2 as opposed to Robin from Montana. Well, hey, R2 and I weren't exactly bosom buddies back then either but let me tell you, R2 doesn't let people run her ass off *anywhere, nor does R2 get bullied. She might leave because it's not fun for her but she's a strong-ass woman and is perfectly capable of standing up for herself, if she feels like it.

"Here is a perfect example of that from your blog:"

That was on Daisy, which is open game for anyone to say most anything on. I've said before and I'll say again, I do not consider Daisy to be "my" blog...it's everyone's blog. Someone has to be stuck putting up new posts and such and I will delete someone's address or phone number being posted for family-safety reasons, but *my blog, sadly neglected as it is, is this one: http://anemonepie.blogspot.com/ On Daisy, I'm just another poster, no different to anyone else, unlike you, here. Not that I mind you claiming this as yours; I've acknowledged it is such, but that's a huge difference in the two situations.

"You posted the above on your blog when Not Shelmo pissed you off. How am I doing any different? You also allowed anyone to post their opinions about Not Shelmo and they weren't the nicest comments in the world."

Again, it's an open blog, not *mine, and anyone can say anything they like there as long as it doesn't jeopardize a family's safety.

"No one said "Lisa that's not nice" No one said "Lisa you are being a bully for defending yourself".."

Nope, but they certainly can if they wish, and not be reprimanded or subjected to 14 paragraph comments on why I can do it and they can't. :-D

"Why is it a double standard with you?"

Because I'm logical and can see pesty things like that.

"You can say Not Shelmo attacked you"

Never once said that. Show me where I said that. She *didn't attack me; she was just heart-wrenchingly stupid and it annoyed me.

"but even with the Won thing...you posted about her and she didn't attack you."

And I didn't attack her. I posted facts about her and my opinion about the videos she allowed to be made and that enabled posters on another site to call her boy a monster, which he is *not*. Just because a comment isn't all bluebirdy, sunshiney speeeeeecial doesn't mean it's an attack.

Lauren said...

Lisa:

See how it sometimes takes 14 paragraphs to defend yourself I guess now you understand how it feels!

Lisa you said: "Nope, but they certainly can if they wish, and not be reprimanded or subjected to 14 paragraph comments on why I can do it and they can't. :-D"

Well I do below this comment is over 14 paragraphs or at least pretty close!

No need to feel defensive about my pointing out a few things to you. I just had some questions about some things that seemed odd about the way you question me but yet do the same thing yourself.

Anonymous said...

Did you two know that you can privately email one another? It's a really cool thing where you can hash things out without everyone else reading it!
;)

PP

Lauren said...

PP

Wow I had no idea...(just kidding) :)

The reason it is being addressed here is because what Lisa said was said here and I felt it should be addresses here since everyone who reads had read what Lisa said.

I felt that was only fair...sorry if you are bored with all this. Just ignore us and carry on...

Cheers

Lauren said...

The quote above by Dr Seuss...I happen to think it stands for being true to who you are and you can say what you feel.

Now that doesn't mean you have to be a bully, saying what you feel or having your own personal opinion is totally different from bullying.

Don't impose your opinions on others and don't have the "POSSE" mentality like MWOP does that if any one has a different opinion from you that your "POSSE" will attack them. That is bullying.

The "POSSE" appears here often and I think we can all see how the numerous Anon posters will appear one after the other when something ruffles their feathers...I guess they think we are not very bright and can't identify who they are. It's funny when it happens because they don't even hide it well.

Anyway, hope everyone has a wonderful weekend and don't forget to go vote for Courtney and Tripp, you can vote everyday!

Thanks

Anonymous said...

"I NEVER said I knew who anyone was unless they tell me."

and yet.....

"I guess they think we are not very bright and can't identify who they are."

Liar, liar, WalMart panties on fire.

Lauren said...

Liar, liar, WalMart panties on fire

who meaning bullies from MWOP but I think you already knew that, or at least I hope you could read and understand that. Either way now you know..

BTW very cool name :) Probably one of the BEST I have seen..WELCOME!

Smecky said...

Lauren,

You do have some tendencies toward bullying...let me finish please. :)

When you posted an email on this blog and claimed Leah sent it, you had no proof that it was her. You said it was ok because it was just your "opinion". When I tried to get you to understand that accusing someone without proof is bullying, you reacted by including me in one of your posts - accusing me of saying things I hadn't said. When I pointed out I hadn't said those things, you didn't change the post. It's still there. To me, that's bullying. Accusing someone of something with no proof is bullying. Allowing people to attack that person in the comments is bullying. Wrapping it all up in a pretty package and labeling it "my opinion" is bullying. Every bully in the world could qualify their attacks on others with the words "in my opinion". Sorry but it doesn't excuse the behavior.

You (and a couple others - your posse?) called me a bully for trying to get you to understand my point. I'd like to know how expressing *my* opinion is bullying but you expressing yours is not. You said it yourself - "Don't impose your opinions on others and don't have the "POSSE" mentality like MWOP does that if any one has a different opinion from you that your "POSSE" will attack them. That is bullying." But apparently this only applies to other people and not yourself. You can continue to say this is your blog and you can say what you want but that doesn't change the fact that you're sometimes guilty of the same things this blog is supposedly against.

(Please don't start the Leah conversation again, this isn't about her - she just happens to have been the subject at the time. This has nothing to do with her other than what's already been stated here)

Having said all of this, I really don't know how anyone could point out the bullying of others on a blog like this without ending up sounding like a bully themselves. It's a fine line between pointing it out and being one. Maybe I did come off sounding like I was trying to impose my opinion on you instead of trying to make you understand what I was saying. And maybe you did the same thing. I guess the difference is that I didn't feel the need to put you down on a front page post on my blog for all to see. Bully? Maybe so.

Your blog = your rules but at least own what you're doing here. I think people would be much more supportive of you if you did.

Smecky said...

Btw, sorry that was so long. 14 paragraphs...indeed. :)

Lisa said...

Tina, I give up, lol. You win by default because I just don't have the energy for more of this in me right now. It's making my eyes cross and God knows we're boring the shit out of people. I'm good with everyone just drawing their own conclusions about us both and things that have happened or that we've said, based on both our past behavior as well as our current. I'll assume you're good with the same. :-)

Anonymous said...

Lauren, why don't you just admit that you do sometimes forget what you have previously typed/said?

We all can read, or we wouldn't be here, and when you contradict REALITY, you appear to be not just mentally unbalanced but a liar as well.

(Cue the multiple paragraph screed about happy! travel! and drinks! Don't forget to include at least one harpy-shrill "if you don't like it you can leave" and "I know you are but what am I?")

Lauren said...

Smecky:

If you read the April 15th blog post I think I admit this.

"I was a victim of bullying and if by using this blog to call out the bullies makes me a Bully, fine. I will gladly take that title and wear it with pride. The reason I am not ashamed if you choose to look at me as a Bully is because I know my heart is in the right place. I will take the title because I hope this blog can help others to stand up and show the bullies that we will not take it any longer."

Cheers

Lauren said...

anon 10:44

I can say that no problem because I think everyone can sometimes forget what they type/say.

Hence the reason I was showing Lisa the things she had said...

The other stuff you commented, not sure what you are trying to say??????

Please make up a name because it becomes difficult to know which anon is which?

Cheers

Lauren said...

Lisa:

Fine with me!

Have a great weekend, is Jake still gone? I'm sure you are missing him. I miss not living near my kids right now and look so forward to the times we are together...can't wait for Thanksgiving now, next get to gether! :)

Looking forward to the Rangers game tonight..GO RANGERS!!!

Lauren said...

Smecky:

I just re-read your comment and I need to say one other thing..sorry :(

I don't have a "POSSE" here. I have no one who I am friendly with outside of this blog that backs me up. It's just me, all by myself!

Now from time to time others(people like you who just stop by and comment) will comment that they agree or will jump in defend against others, but as far as a "POSSE" no I don't have one.

ALthough, I've always thought it would be fun to have a "POSSE", you know you could go around cause shit, drama, and do and say whateverrrrrrr...and then you could walk away and have your "POSSE" come in and clean up the mess!

Anybody know if Craiglists has any "POSSES" you
buy? (just kidding) ::giggle::

Anonymous said...

So you have no posse but you automatically assume everyone else does? And that the reason posters sometimes share similar opinions is because we are in cahoots?

I assumed your obsession was projection.

Anonymous said...

"I can say that no problem because I think everyone can sometimes forget what they type/say."

Yes, of course, but there's a BIG difference between readily admitting this forgetfulness and vehemently denying the cut-and-paste facts.

You do the latter. Repeatedly. It doesn't exactly enhance your credibility or appearance of mental stability.

Smecky said...

Credit where it's due - I appreciate the sorry.

I don't have a posse, either. Let me know if you find one on sale somewhere. :)

"If you read the April 15th blog post I think I admit this."

I missed this. I'm still a bit confused by your logic though. Stopping bullies by becoming one...seems more like joining them than stopping them. Standing up to a particular bully is great but complaining about a handful of bloggers isn't really standing up to bullies, no matter where your heart is.

In any case, I do appreciate that you let fly-by commenters like me have our say without deleting, for the most part. I know you don't have to.

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