Siuan is a very sick person to even THINK thoughts like this about innocent children. If Siuan believes that the children will turn out like this due to the influence of their parents, maybe we can all understand what kind of parents Siuan must have had and the way she was raised!
Siuan please go and get yourself some professional help. These are innocent children and you are labeling them before they even have the opportunity to grow up. SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
I hope you don't have children because I would fear for the child who was growing up with someone like you as their mother.
You are a very angry person and have nothing but hate in everything you say!
Step away from the computer and contact the nearest Mental Health Agency.
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Even I must admit she's a nasty creature. I have a feeling she's a former poster who got banned for being inappropriate. I remember the style (and I'm one who never knows who anybody is!) but she's so vile I remember it.
`PP
I disagree with her comment (and I flagged it for Anja) but I'm also pretty sure it was a tongue-in-cheek remark, especially given the last sentence. -L
Well, while she said it harshly and I'm not fond of going after kids on blogs, I don't entirely disagree with her, or at least that they may find the urge to do so harder than kids raised differently. After all, she *is right...kids do learn what they live and we can't deny JM has done everything she listed. I'm no fan of Siuan at all, but I've got to step in a bit here, supporting what she said. Not how she said it, or that it was appropriate to say at all (it wasn't, imo), but yeah...
Lauren, can I assume you'll drive me to the nearest mental health facility? :-D
Oh, and of all her kids, I think Kieran is the cutest, by far. They're all nice, average kids but I think he's just unusually so. You know, for whatever that's worth.
Siuan has been extremely nasty as of late! She's always rubbed me the wrong way but lately she really think her shit don't stink. She must be pretty miserable in real life & nothing better to do to not only pick on JM but also her kids, extended family, and whoever else crosses her path.
Another thing that's been bothering me lately, I get why Anja banned Barb, but I think they should stop making fun of her if she can't even come to defend herself. They've been ripping Barb a new one since she's been banned and I really think that's not fair. Anja should put a stop to it now! They got what they wanted so leave the poor lady alone.......
Darcy
Darcy, I agree with that, re: Barb. She's a nutcase, but the playing field ought to be level. If they banned her, she needed to have never been mentioned again. To ban her, then discuss her publicly, is pretty damn bad. I like to think Anja will put a stop to that soon, though.
Lisa:
I think what we must remember is MWOP is always stating Mckmamas children will one day google and read all the horrible things about their mother.
Now if MWOP really is concerned about the children (LIKE THEY CLAIM) I cannot believe that comment was allowed to stay posted.
Children are not ALWAYS going to do what their parents did. If someone kills someone is it fair to say.."Well that kid will grow up to be a killer". Of course not, children aren't responsible for the sins of their parents and should never be labeled as such. This is unfair and unkind.
I went back and read alittle that Suian has shared about herself under her profile (the 1000 plus comments she has made) very interesting stuff. Explains many things about this poster and the reason behind her postings on MWOP.
You can really learn alot about people if you go back and read some of the things they say in comments.
Regarding Barb, yes, Anja has already asked them to stop discussing her, so I would think she'll start enforcing it a bit more now if it continues. -L
I'm with Lisa, Lauren if the father is a killer and get jail fast the kid would be safe but if the kid see his father killing after killing for their whole early and middle childhood years the probability that he would kill is pretty big.
But, but..... no one has killed anyone! What are you even talking about freethinker? That really just made me loose all respect dude. WTF? Let's try to stay on topic and compare "apples too apples" not hypothetical murderers....... Let's keep focused here. Like for example " Welfare breeds Welfare" something like that, not that I agree with that.
Seriously though, your comment made me spit my wine all over the screen :)
"I hope you don't have children because I would fear for the child who was growing up with someone like you as their mother."
HOW is that ANY different than what Siuan said??? YOU fear for the future of her children because of the "kind" of person she is; THAT is pretty much what she said about JM.
She's a bully? And you're not???
~sscss~
Let me throw this out there. First, I have no idea what Siuan has written lately, I haven't read MWOP in awhile, so I'm not defending her. It was brought up that Siuan has Aspergers. May explain things? Like I said, I haven't read over there for awhile, so aside from what was posted here, I have no idea what's she said.
WetandCold
I don't understand? What does (I infer by reading your post) Aspergers have to do with... anything? I'm not being a rude snarky person, I promise...
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Let's not forget WHO said what!
I fear for her children because of the hate she is voicing and the way she is BRANDING innocent children before they have even had the chance to grow up. If she is a mother, she is being judged by her actions just like she is judging Mckmama. I'm just saying why should she be any different? I personally don't agree with judging children by the sins of their parents. I happen to believe that all children should be viewed as individuals. They are not clones of their parents and we have no idea of what they will grow up to be. As adults and mothers it was shocking to see a mother say this about children. I am ashamed for her and I truly hope that she has mental problems that would explain her comment.
No I'm not bullying her and I never said she was bullying anyone. I just think she is a sick person to have made this comment about children and I do fear for her children if they are being raised in a home with a mother who says things like this about innocent children.
We are all adults and can defend ourselves but these are innocent children who will one day read what was written about them online and I would hate for any child to read this written by an adult.
I'm also shocked that her comment has 12 likes on MWOP and this says lots about the type of women who are commenting on that site. Not one person stood up and said "Hey that is ugly and don't say things like that about the children". What a bunch of cowards and anyone who has commented since that was posted is just as GUILTY as her for not speaking up. Guilty by association because by saying nothing..you are saying you agree!
Darcy:
I agree about Barb. They really should leave her alone..enough!
While I was sick I think I read that Barb said something about being bullied by MWOP and she had taken screen shots and had spoke with someone, maybe an attorney. I didn't read for a few days and next thing Anja has taken the comments and moved them off the main screen. Makes me think maybe Anja is worried and is trying to cover her ass. Barb was bullied and this is what MWOP does if you don't agree 100% with them.
Some may not know the history but this is one of the MAIN reasons I started this blog. You can disagree (with respect) and you can voice your opinion without FEAR of being bullied or banned!
Anja has said that she's not worried about the legalese threats from Barb, but she does think the comments detract from the site, and that's why she's moved them to a separate link. -L
FYI: Kieran is Big Mac, the oldest and Cullen is the adorable Nuggey, the second oldest. Just wanted to clarify for those who are getting the two mixed up.
Carol
SSCSS = Siuan
on Open Floor 3 weeks ago
This is completely uncalled for. The kids are off limits.
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Above is a comment from Siuan just 3 weeks ago at MWOP. So 3 weeks ago the kids are off limits yet today she is calling out their futures as criminals?
I must say I have a very good idea who Siuan is and she has been banned from MWOP once before and called out on some other forums and is known to have a mental disorder. The arrival of Siuan was when the trouble maker was banned. Just sayin..it is beginning to ALL ADD UP!!!!!
Carol,
Don't mean to be confrontational but what you said about Kieran is inappropriate. He looks perfectly happy & healthy to me! He knew the words, did the actions, not sure what you saw but you're reaching. You saying what you did is no better than what they say over at MWOP.......
Darcy
Carol:
I have deleted your comment.
We will not talk about the children.
I would hate for that child to one day see that written about him.
I did not see anything like what you stated. He is a lovely child and I believe he is very creative.
Maybe you meant no harm but I cannot allow such things about an innocent child to be posted on this blog.
Lauren, will you please delete the comment with the timestamp of "October 14, 2011 1:49 PM"? Thanks. -L
L
Sorry I missed that one but it is deleted now.
I apologize if my comment offending some, Lauren. There's been a lot of talk about the oldest being kept out of school for a developmental reason, and I agree wholeheartedly after taking in the whole picture. I also, however, respect your decision to remove my comment.
Carol
I read a lot of things at a lot of places, and rarely comment anywhere; if I read something I disagree with on MWoP, especially if it's of the nitpicky variety, I generally just move along. Lots of people put lots of opinions out on the internet; there's not enough time in the day to argue with everyone and try to prove that I'm "right".
Lauren, I understand what point you're making, and I'm usually the first one screaming for Anja to delete harsh comments about the children; I just didn't read the tone the same way as you. I still don't, but I'm not here to change anyone's mind about Siuan. I think that your original post was hypocritical and bullying, but your comment to me made much more sense and I could understand your point of view.
And I think everyone at MWoP should shut up about Barb, but I'm also not going to waste my time trying to convince each person that I'm "right". There's some saying about if you're arguing with the internet, you've already lost.
So you say I'm guilty for not speaking up, but consider that I might have other things in my life that take priority when it comes to speaking up and fighting the good fight, so to speak.
Oh, and I'm not Siuan. And I'm not a bitch.
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Thank you Lauren. I said the exact same thing about Siuan's other identity. That poster who was banned had the exact same tone and language. She drove me nuts and I was thrilled when she was banned. When S showed soon after I recognized her immediately. I don't care what anyone says. I know that's her. She also has a history of stalking and harassing Mck on twitter. She's vile.
PP
What are you talking about, Julia?
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Wish I had saved some of the kettle corn from the festival earlier today for this....
FL
Dumba$$ sorry Anon 7:21 PM.
I was talking to Lauren. Here is what Lauren wrote "Children are not ALWAYS going to do what their parents did. If someone kills someone is it fair to say.."Well that kid will grow up to be a killer". Of course not, children aren't responsible for the sins of their parents and should never be labeled as such. This is unfair and unkind. " I respond to her comment thank you very much.
I think the children should be left alone period, someday they will be able to get online and read all the drama that surrounds their parents, as bad as that is going to be, they don't need to read stuff written about them! Siuan just seems downright mean imo.
Tempi
sscss,
I know very little about Aspergers, very very little. I thought that sometimes being sort of brash was something that went along with that. No filter you could say. I'm not saying anything against Siuan, I'm just wondering if some of her comments that offended some could really not be helped.
I'm really sounding like an idiot aren't I? I'm not trying to offend anyone with my ignorance of Aspergers. Please excuse me.
WetandCold
WetandCold,
Thanks for taking the time to explain what you meant, and now I see where you're coming from. I'm not offended, I was just confused by your comment.
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@Tempi-I agree with you.
I have always thought that Siuan was one of the worst ones on there. I find that if she is being unsually evil, I will stop reading a particular post or string of comments.
Not sure if Siuan got banned or what, but she changed over to guest and posts are gone.
Because she flipped her lid today and went off on a bunch of posters like the insane monkey she is. I have no idea if she got banned or intentionally removed her comments.
PP
Ooooh, I just figured it out. Hey, I'm sick and slow, but y'all think Siuan is SeeSee? I'm not so sure, but I wouldn't argue it. While Siuan is harsh and can say ugly things, she's more pulled together in her sentence structure than SeeSee, no?
Someone seriously needs to have a Hair Intervention with Mckinney. Girl wears her hair away from her face so tight, her forehead looks like it just doesn't stop. Doesn't help lessen the ugly at all, just highlights it. Gawd! Looks like someone placed a vertical block of wood on top of her dang head. I could swear that girl has a penis hidden underneath all the frumpy attire. She's very, very masculine.
-Fivehead
Siuan and SSCSS are one and the same or at least bully besties. SeeSee couldn't write, form a sentence or spell worth a damn. She was a very erratic one. Siuan forms sentences. Can't be her.
-Fivehead
Lauren, feel free to remove my post if you chose to remove Anon 4:50's, but as long as that one is there, I'll note my disagreement. He's a really good-looking kid, imo. His features and coloring are good but not ordinary (big plus in my book) and I adore the gummy smile. You're free to disagree, obviously, but I'm just not sure why you feel such a need to do so and call him ugly, to boot. I'll admit there are some butt-ugly kids in this world, but JM doesn't have any of them and particularly not this one.
If you don't believe SSCSS is Siuan, then check out this interesting little exchange on MWOP where she takes up for the now banned Siuan:
insertcleverMckName
Ok so I just got back from a birthday party, check my email and see that Suian ripped me new one in the comments, although now they are gone. What the EFF happened? First of all, I have no preference over autism or deafness or whatever. I have issue with people watching a 30 second video and diagnosing another's children. It's effed up. So next time you want to go off on me, be my guest. But don't blame it on autism sensitivity. Blame it on my being less of a douche than some others.
sscss
She didn't see the original comment so it was a big misunderstanding.
nosheepleforme
It may have been a misunderstanding as to the orginal comment, but that doesn't excuse the rant she went on in several comments. But, moot point I suppose since now her posts are gone and she is "guest"
sscss
It is a moot point, but I'd like to point out that once she understood the original comment, she stopped "ranting" and (I assume) deleted the comments.
"SeeSee couldn't write, form a sentence or spell worth a damn. She was a very erratic one. Siuan forms sentences. Can't be her."
That's what I meant...so, maybe I was wrong in thinking that's who people meant? Is possible. My brain is all foggy.
"I could swear that girl has a penis hidden underneath all the frumpy attire. She's very, very masculine."
Could be why I think she's sort of cute. ;-) So, what modeling agency are you contracted with?
No modeling agency, I'm afraid; just a washed up collegiate cheerleader! But I would say I'm definitely a girly girl. So, you like girls, huh? That's alright, Lisa. You're still alright in my book : )
-Fivehead
Well thaaaaaaat's interesting...
Siuan is back on MWOP and when you click on her profile pic of the cat, she's only made one comment. Looks like our little friend SSCSS, I mean Siuan, reads here and chose to hide that she has a mental problem that would explain some of her batshitcraziness. She deleted her trail and started anew. Well, lookie there!
MM:I'm not your friend, little or otherwise. I actually came here earlier to see whether anyone was going to weigh in on The Bloggess over the weekend. I'm still not Siuan, but you go have fun with that. My trail's exactly where it's always been.
Anyone else who comments on the kids' looks as some indicator of their medical status???? You're an internet ass, and a bully. I don't care what website it is, that should be deleted.
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Lauren, will you please delete the following comments:
October 15, 2011 4:50 PM & October 15, 2011 7:00 PM
Thanks. -L
Bless her heart. Now Siuan is having a conversation with herself/sock puppet as SSCSS. So understanding the two of them are with one another. Always having each others backs. Didn't someone say Siuan had a mental disorder, or was that Asperger's? Either way, I think it's safe to say we can now add Schizophrenic to the list!!!!!!
Freak.Azoid.
Anon 9:41PM:
No. Siuan has reincarnated her Siuan persona at Mwop. She's deleted her first Siuan profile with the cat picture, deleted it and started over. That way no one sees what kind of batshitcrazy she is when they read back at her 1,526,636,369 comments that prove the point. In fact, it would appear that she'd now talking to herself as her other personality sscss.
Looks like she deleted herself again. Aye yay....
FL
I must have missed The Bloggess drama. I read her blog again today and didn't notice anything. I can't believe that MWOP finally appears to be going away. Very few people participating and other than insane amounts of speculation, not much happening.
Disgusted
What happened at blogess? I love her
PP
Here's The Bloggess drama: http://thebloggess.com/2011/10/and-then-the-pr-guy-called-me-a-fucking-bitch-i-cant-even-make-this-shit-up/
As for MWOP going away, it always gets quiet when JM is quiet / non-controversial. I think it's a good thing. -L
Oh I DID read that! I thought it was pretty funny personally. I probably would respond the same way. As much as I fight it, at heart I'm a sarcastic snarky B LOL
PP
I thought that was funny and I'm not very snarky or sarcastic at all. I loved the "stand by for a demonstration of relevancy." Jose got an education that he didn't anticipate I am sure.
Disgusted
Does anyone else find it odd that Siuan deleted her profile after being accused here of being SeeSee? Or have I just been hanging around the conspiracy theorists too long?
PP
PP,
I think Siuan deleted her profile after people started addressing her mental condition here and how reading her many comments were proof positive of that. I think she just deleted her trail of comments. She's much too clear in her writings as far as punctuation, grammar, etc. to be SeeSee. That lady was a nutjob without an ounce of writing skill. I believe someone used the term bat shit crazy to describe her. Siuan is SSCSS. They're one in the same. Each one jumps in for the other whenever they're attacked. You never see anything really from SSCSS until Siuan gets a stomping on mwop. It's hilarious to watch, almost as hilarious as when SSCSS or Siuan deny it! I feel sorry for her, actually.
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