On May 22nd MWOPblog did a post titled "Helping Hands"....
This was a post about helping the victims of the storms with links attached. MWOP was trying to give people the impression that they were really nice people and cared about others.
Well once again I see them shining bright as HYPOCRITES!
Why all the snark and mean girl talk about a family who is broken down with small children. It doesn't matter if someone feels like a persons personal choices are skewed and that they should have had the repair done before they left. The bottom line is it is sad and unfortunate. If someone comes down with cancer and they happen to be a bully I would never say..."Well they got what they deserved"....
I happen to believe that it is very sad what has happened with their car. I think she is trying to do an honest days work and has taken her family with her in an effort to be together and STILL MWOP slams her. Cars break down and this could be any one of us that this happened to. As a TEXAN I am very proud to see the love and friendship that is being offered to the McKinney family by fellow TEXANS.
I know if I knew a family was in a jam I would help in any way I could. I wouldn't base my help on if I thought they had made the right decision in traveling with a car in need of repairs.....no, I would help and hope that by not judging them I was doing the Christian thing.
MWOP ladies don't appear to have Christian hearts because if they did they would be showing some compassion towards this family instead of enjoying an others misfortune.
39 comments:
correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't it you that more or less slammed/made fun of someone not being able to have kids? if you compare that to comments on broken down cars, it says a lot about you IMO I don't know you, you may be a nut or a good hearted person but I do see you as a hypocrite big time
No never made fun of someone for not being able to have kids...but go ahead and take what I said out of context..it sure seems like the MWOP ladies are really good at doing that.
Man I didn't know "Over The Hill" would cause such a stir...
WRONG...again....but good try!
:)
Wow, I answered you respectfully and politely, I said my honest opinion, this is probably why no one posts here or takes you serious. Your smiley doesn't cute up your response, enjoy the crickets I prefer to post where I can get an adult response, even if we disagree, again IMO you are a hypocrite, most people are, at one time or another myself included, you are trying too hard. Do I feel sorry for Jennifer because her car broke down?> not even a little bit, she chose to live the life she is living dragging 5 small children and pets along, her and her husband choose to travel around like the wind rather then to a hard days work, so what they are "stranded" with cover, food water etc, I choose to feel sorry for the people who have nothing by no choice of their own. Have a wonderful day Lauren I really was hoping for some polite intelligent debates wrong place :)
Oh and for the record, yes your over the hill comment regarding children was disgusting, and uncalled for, but frankly not surprising
I am sorry, I just cannot see where you think storm victims and someone who flies by the seat of their pants with NO BACK-UP PLAN can even be in the same post.
I am still attempting to figure out how it is okay for you to do what you do but not for anyone else. You state things like they are facts, but really it is your opinion. Opinions are fine, stating them as facts is not.
Shell & Shelmo...... enough. Run along twits run along. You have MWOP to comment on over & over again, this site does not need you here :)
Once again twisting the context of my post...
ANYONE who finds JOY in someones pain is what bothers me. Making jokes and rejoicing in a family who is stranded because of car trouble. It is one thing to have an opinion about Mckmama and her blogging but is so wrong to appear to find such joy in their bad situation. I guess I am different and would feel bad for any MWOPer who was in a bad spot and I would put my personal feelings about them aside. I guess not everyone feels the same way and can do that....Like I said....if a MWOPer was stranded with their children I sure wouldn't be blogging and making jokes about it....finding compassion for even the ones we may not like is sometimes hard to do but man it sure feels good!
I remember when Goateater posted about her cancer and the MWOP ladies were doubting her illness...it broke my heart. I kept hoping she NEVER read what the ladies said about her.....next I read that she passed and I sure hope all the people who doubted her felt bad for the things they had said.....again compassion it is a great thing if you allow it in your life!
ANON...the analogy between Storm victims and Mckmama was referring to having compassion for people. What someone who (your words not mine) has no BACK UP PLAN doesn't deserve compassion? That is like saying a motorcycle wreak vitcim deserved to be injured cause we all know motorcycles aren't safe....but it was their choice so I would still feel compassion for them...
"Oh and for the record, yes your over the hill comment regarding children was disgusting, and uncalled for, but frankly not surprising"
Passing judgement on something you can't quote properly and probably haven't even actually read. Interesting technique. Especially from someone who claims to be seeking "intelligent debate."
You can dress it up but stupid will ALWAYS shine through.
I also felt bad when the mwopers questioned goateater. I was really disappointed in one particular person who shall remain nameless, but she was one of the first ones to question goateater. Matter of fact, she went from questioning her to praying for her all in the same week.
The funny thing is, when that Elisabeth Adkisson came to mwop talking about her "brother", the few people who were smart enough to question her were pretty much attacked. The one person they should have questioned, they did not. They instead asked for donations and put a button up on the blog. And yet, goateater just asked for prayers and she was questioned. Now that's sad!
Also, was violet the one who started that hssyt blog about liz? Someone asked about this on mowp and of course shell, like she always does answered for violet (it seems shell always comes to rescue violet and/or the blog) and made the comment along the lines of stop trying to start drama and email violet if you want to know about it!
It seems like shell is violet's and mwop's head sheeple!
No it is not like comparing it to an accident of any kind - again out of their control. Who plans on being in an accident? Just like who really plans to have everything taken by a storm? When is the last time did you hear anyone say, I was waiting for this storm and take everything that I have or today, I really hope that I am in an auto accident?
Why wouldn't you have a back up plan if you knew when you left your truck was not solid to make the trip? That was their choice.
Rose colored glasses make everything look pretty, but it they do not provide what reality looks like.
Let's face Jennifer feeds off of MWOP as much as MWOP feeds off of Jennifer.
Yes as far as I know Violet did start that blog...at least that is what I was told.
The thing about Goateater I had started to do a blog post about it when it happened but then I said...no because I was afraid she was going to get better and read all the crap and it made me so sad for her. You are right all she asked for was support and friendship and the very VOCAL ones threw her under the bus....may she RIP and like I said I am glad she never had to read what they wrote about her.
To ANON..."Over The Hill" is probably bothering you because maybe you think you are "Over The Hill"...that is your problem...not mine! I happen to believe you are as young as you feel!
Twist it how ever you like but I'm not biting...good try :) :) :)
anon 3:28
The point is about having COMPASSION for your fellow man...no matter the choices they make. Good choices, poor choices or no choices....COMPASSION it is a beautiful thing and it warms your heart when you can put away the HATE in your heart and FEEL LOVE for someone who is down and out. Taking drugs is a choice people make....but I would never turn my back on a person because of their poor choice...I may not like their choices but if I could I would help and I certainly would not find any JOY in their PAIN....not sure how to make you understand my point but I think many know what I am trying to say and what I meant.
I get NO PLEASURE from someones PAIN and I get a sick feeling in my stomach seeing woman who seem to enjoy this. My opinion....my feelings!
No Name said:
You can dress it up but stupid will ALWAYS shine through.
This comment is for you NO NAME...
Not sure why you are being so nasty...but I will pray for you! :)
I could be wrong, but I don't think no name was being nasty and I certainly don't think that comment she made was directed towards you, Lauren.
Anon 1:36 said she was looking for an "intelligent debate", yet she twisted and added to your words and basically became offended over something she made up.
No name was simply stating,IMO that if anon wanted an intelligent debate, then she could have at least been intelligent enough to read what you wrote to quote you correctly.
"You can dress it up but stupid will ALWAYS shine through." In other words, anon 1:36 is the stupid one.
Lauren,
My point - I can see why others might (myself included) not have a great deal of understanding. Understanding things that make you scratch your head and wonder why... is different than having compassion.
Again, I am attempting to understand why it is okay for you to speak ill about others and state your opinions, which clearly are not positive, about others.
Ask yourself... at the end of the day, when all is said and done - does it really matter? What I mean by matter - will any of this stuff you write on your blog have an impact on your life - with you family? to your home?
I have a feeling that you will answer no.
Honestly, I have read this site for a while and still cannto figure out the purpose - and do not take this the wrong way, but you come across as being very bitter. And honestly, I do not think that is what you really want.
Anon 4:41
What is bitter about this post?
That I am sad that woman are making fun of someone who is down and out?
That compassion isn't shown to people no matter if we personally like them or not?
Bitter no...
Sad yes...
You may not understand the reason behind this blog...but I know the reason. It helps me to have a SAFE place to express my feelings without going to THEIR blog to be attacked for having a different opinion. Hope that clears that up.
Sorry Anon I thought you were saying the stupid thing to me and honestly I'm tired of being called stupid, dumb, can't write, etc. etc. No problem....but I didn't say anything mean back only that I would pray for you...:)
Just trying to turn the other cheek...LOL
Typically when one attempts be right or call attention their own right actions, it does not always read that way.
So what you think it sad, does it change who you are? Sad is a feeling.
A safe place without going to their blog? This is what I don't understand. Having your blog calling out another blog makes you safer? All it does is make it yours. And again when all said and done, does it really matter. Was your vacation a better vacation because you have this safe blog to express your feelings? Probably not. So far your blog is all about people who post at MWOP.
If you feel COMPASSION for Jennifer, by all means do something for her. Calling out others who might be laughing is not doing Jennifer an ounce of good.
I have always said, those who speak about it are not doing it. (this applies to most everything)
Unfortantly, mean is mean, stealing is stealing, wrong is wrong - you can justify your actions, the core is still the same. (that is a general statement) Making statements or little digs about others is no different than others making digs about others.
I joke around by saying... two wrongs do not make right, but it sure makes it even - but there is truth in humor. The bad thing when you attempt to justify your actions is usually the clue that it was not right. Right decisions do not need to be justified. When is the last time you heard any one justify helping an elderly person with their groceries?
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Lauren, I appreciate you having this blog and allowing us to state our opinions whether we agree with you or not. We certainly wouldn't be able to do that on mwop without the few regulars attacking us!
Anon 1:36,
You know your post did the exact same thing you accused Lauren of doing in her post? Right?
Anonwalker
To the "classy" poster who called me stupid...if you read my post again it clearly states "correct me if I am wrong" let me type this slow for you, I wasn't sure exactly what had been said so I was asking for clarification, so for you to accuse me of being stupid and not getting it right, really makes you shine with smarts
funny Lauren you claim to want peace and rainbows yet when you thought someone called you stupid it was a no no, but when its someone who took the time to post here its okay? how very Christian of you.
To whoever posted under me and called me Shell or not Shelmo ( not sure which) it would be very easy for Lauren to see my ip I would assume and see I am not either of them, I am not a mwoper or whatever you call people either, I am someone who has made maybe 10 posts there. I read here I read there, some of the stuff Lauren has posted has made me wonder, but this above post was being a hypocrite IMO, no reason for all the attacks ladies, I am on neither side, just someone who actually gets a laugh out of all the drama surrounding a blog.
I don't like Jennifer, I think she stinks as a person in general, however I don't post on her facebook twitter or blog nor do I "stalk" her, just along for the laughs...and I honestly thought I could post here and get some answers,
and again whoever called me stupid, and said I was offended couldn't be farther off, as I said I wasn't sure exactly what Lauren had said, as for being offended it takes much more but I am glad I got Laurens blog hopping, it needed a boost so pot meet kettle, have a nice evening ladies and meow xo
Anon 6:26 you are very welcome...
Anon 5:58 I guess we can agree to disagree..I know my heart and I guess you don't..that's OK! I've only been mean when I felt like I had reached my breaking point....I never came out hitting or name calling first. Maybe you have never been the victum of a bully so it is hard for you to understand how it feels. Maybe you have and have thicker skin I don't know...all I know is that you are right it is my place to say how I feel and I hope you can respect that and understand I don't go to their blog and say anything. This blog isn't my life and I happen to have a very full life...it's only a small part and I tired to keep it open during my vacation so others could have a safe place....got slammed in the comments for that.
Maybe I should post all the nasty comments so others could understand WHY I sometimes seem like I am being petty...you have no idea of the comments and emails I have received since this blog was found and it is shocking the things they have said to me and my family. I didn't post them because I didn't want the nasty people to have their comments posted..also to protect my family.
I happen to know my husband would have come unglued with some of the comments about our kids and grand kids...so I deleted them...but they still are in my thoughts and make me very angry. Threats against your kids and grand kids is never OK...
Let's just move on and agree we have different opinions...
"I've only been mean when I felt like I had reached my breaking point...."
---- again, no justification makes it right, it only makes you only look defensive ----
Please understand, I am not attempting to slam you or be mean, I am truly attempting for you to step back and read what you wrote without feelings and see if it still seems right to you.
If you feel so attacked... why keep exposing yourself? Why keep baiting MWOP and taking the bait from them?
Do I have thick skin? That is not what matters - what truly matters is never compromising who you are, no matter what!
Have your husband read this blog of yours and have him honestly tell you what he thinks.
Anyways... good night and hope find peace in your soul.
"To the "classy" poster who called me stupid...if you read my post again it clearly states "correct me if I am wrong" let me type this slow for you, I wasn't sure exactly what had been said so I was asking for clarification, so for you to accuse me of being stupid and not getting it right, really makes you shine with smarts"
Ummm, no. This is what you said:
"Oh and for the record, yes your over the hill comment regarding children was disgusting, and uncalled for, but frankly not surprising"
You were not asking for clarification. You were making an assumption about a comment that you didn't even read firsthand.
"Sorry Anon I thought you were saying the stupid thing to me and honestly I'm tired of being called stupid, dumb, can't write, etc. etc. No problem....but I didn't say anything mean back only that I would pray for you...:)"
Lauren, I made the stupid comment and I am not posting as anon.
And the stupid comment was directed at the idiot who is blaming you for something she heard about through the grapevine instead of actually reading your words and making up her own mind.
In other words, I was supporting you and the blog but if that's a problem for you let me know and I'll be happy to leave quietly. ;-}
"Let's face Jennifer feeds off of MWOP as much as MWOP feeds off of Jennifer"
Yes, yes and definitely well of course! Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
frankly, i can't understand why MWOP exists. it's time consuming to maintain a Slam site like that and they don't make money out of it. who cares how many hits they get.
people need to get a life outside the confines of their campooter!
anon 7:03pm
Hubby, kids and IRL friends read and think it is great I am speaking up....they are proud of me! That's all that matters to me...
:)
I say let the nasty comments through, just edit out the private info if necessary. Let people see who they are. I'd post the emails too.
LOL again I am an idiot? you have the class of Courtney Love actually more like a bottom feeder, oh my you are an angry little person, try reading my comment one more time maybe you will get it, but I doubt it.
Lauren I didn't post here to fight, as I said, I am on neither side, nor do I intend to be, I think the bashing is out of hand on both sides, forgive me for being an "idiot" and not getting my facts 100% for someone who is fairly new to all the McDrama you of course understand how confusing it all is. And to the class act above, I never said I heard anything through the grapevine, I read it HERE, do you understand that? Should I type slower?
I do think you are using this blog because you are doing what you feel is right, whether I agree or disagree is neither here nor there, I don't agree with everything on MWOP, and as little as I have posted I can honestly say I have never been called the names and insulted like I have here, if you want a blog to speak your truth, may I suggest you ask your posters to refrain from the name calling, it doesn't help your cause or credibility IMO.
I don't understand everything going on here or at MWOP, and quite frankly I have never asked there nor will I ask here again. You almost had me believing in what you have said, sorry some classless trashy "bully" felt the need to make it ugly, and yes I am name calling to the bitch above ;) funny how he/she feels okay "bullying" when this site is supposed to be about that exact issue.
The high school mob crap is below me, so I will move on, best of luck, hope you can clean this place up and use it in a more positive way.
Thanks for publishing my comments although you disagree with me
Anon 4:41 - Does MWOP really matter at the end of the day either? Nope not at all. Those that post here saying that Lauren is only posting opinions and not facts, well I sure hope you don't read MWOP for facts. I have seen many posts based on opinions and not facts, and matter of fact, a couple have been pulled recently.
There are a whole room full of bullies at MWOP, and maybe they will all break down on the side of the road tomorrow with their kids in tow. It isn't a laughing matter to break down, you can't predict car problems just like you can't predict most things.
Sara
Ok, the MWOPers are out of control. One of them was encouraged to drive to the campground JM is in so the poster just posted about a 20 minute conversation she had with JM. If that is not psycho, I don't know what is. I feel like someone needs to warn JM and tell her to quit posting her location. What if that person had been mentally unstable like most of them actually are and had done something dreadful. Ugh, so awful
Sara,
I was asking Lauren those questions, not MWOP. I cannot answer if it matters to the ladies that post at MWOP, neither can you unless you are a member. You can have your opinion about what they might think or feel.
I was not attempting to be mean, just encouraging Lauren to step back and re-read her post and responses.
I admit, it is easy to point what others do wrong but difficult to change wrong within ourselves. But calling out wrong while doing wrong is not right either.
I agree, there are certain things that no one can predict, however if you know that there might be a problem, wouldn't it be best to correct the problem before putting yourself and others at risk? For an example, I knew my front tires were bald and I was planning a trip out of town, about 3 hours. Would it be smart of me to chance it with my son in the car at night?
I could care less that others have opinions or thoughts, after all don't we all?
This is really an interesting post, and with many interesting comments! First off, I don't think Tina sounds bitter in her post. I don't agree with her, but I'm not smelling bitter, either.
Would I help JM? No, not as things stand with her right now. She's in a situation of her own making and is not owning her mistakes and lies. I won't help anyone who makes their own bed, then has trouble sleeping in it...not unless they admit they made it very poorly and asks for help.
Can someone please enlighten me as the the "over the hill" references, though? Thanks!
I happen to agree with this post. I DO understand that Mckmama made her own bed, but if I was at the same camp ground she was and she needed a ride, I would lend her hand. Why? because Jesus would. I have a neighbor who has stolen my cable, is loud, etc... I still help her out by bringing in he trash cans, watching her kids so she can run to the store... the way I look at it, it's not hurting me to help, if she wants to be a douchebag, that's on her, i know I did the right thing. Same things go for Mckmama.
As for the Goat Eater issue, that pissed me off! I wanted to smack the person who said she was faking it. Goat Eater didn't have ads or anything, never asked for money, just prayers, and yet people still had to act like that. It made me so sad. She was even scared to make the blog public in the first place because of people at MWOP, I can totally see why!
"Insert Fake name Here"
I love that you help your neighbor! "if she want to be a douchebag that's on her"....... exactly, doesn't mean you have to be a douchebag back. MWOP could learn that lesson!
I so agree with this and this was the point I was trying to make....
:)
Lisa/AP
The "Over The Hill" comment was about Shell...she loves to call me out for being a Grandmother and says things about it like it is a BAD thing....funny thing is Shell and I are 8 years difference in age....so when I got fed up with her nasty insults I said at least I didn't wait until I was "Over The Hill" to have children...next someone came on and said I was mean and nasty for saying that cause she had fertility issues..so they say??? Well excuse me I never knew that and I never said "You faulty female organs" didn't allow you to be a mother until you were "Over The Hill"...anyway every chance the MWOP/shell gets she appears and brings it up in an attempt to make me look bad....let's not forget what shell has said and done with full intentions of being mean...wished me to BREAK A HIP while at WDW alone with falling off a cliff with my grandkids....pretty nice huh! Anyway that is what the "Over The Hill" is about...funny thing is I could have said...well at least I am not "Over The Hill" while going to WDW with my grand kids..but considering her kids are less than 1 and 3 years by the time she has grands...she will be "OVER THE HILL"...which is a FACT!!! just sayin....
"over the hill" is subjective, which what it means to you might mean something different to someone else.
Wasn't it just yesterday that you said "I happen to believe you are as young as you feel!"
It is your choice if you wish to be the victim, no one is making you have this blog where you trash talk others.
Let it go. Why do you lower yourself to this back and forth nonesense? Again, does it really matter or have such an impact on your life? I am sorry, but it appears to me that you are creating your own drama, which is funny from someone who does not want drama.
To each their own.
Anon 6.47,
Where did Lauren say she wanted rainbows and peace here?
Anonwalker
I agree nonnamesuzy, let the posts go through!
Anonwalker
Anon 8.32,
.....and you are doing the same thing that you are accusing others of, did you read your post?
Anonwalker
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