I'm back!
Rested and enjoyed some golf, friends and sun....
Let's talk about the small stuff. You know the picking apart a persons life....
What do you think about it?
What do you think about the other bloggers who do questionable things? I noticed something Kelle Hampton does, she has giveaways each time she introduces a new sponsor but yet she never discloses that she is being compensated for the giveaway. Why aren't people all bent out of shape over this? Why are people not feeling like Kelle is being dishonest?
What are some other blogs you read that do things that you may say WAIT....isn't this exactly what so many are upset with Mckmama about....
Let's talk about it.....
BTW I noticed in the comments of the last post someone kept saying you ladies were bullying...to that I would like to say....N-O....big difference in bullying and expressing your own opinion about something.
31 comments:
I have wondered this several times actually. I will admit that I have not been a big reader of other "mommy" bloggers and in fact as I have said for years I actually found JM through someone else who there was some controversy with. That person I had come to 'know' on a support site several years ago and then discovered that this girl was telling very different stories about her son and his death.
In the meantime I have learned of other bloggers such as Kelle Hampton, PW, 4 boys and girly twins (?), and so on.
Now while I do think that JM loves to play the dramatic card in an effort to get people to click more on her site. I have to say that from what I have seen on others is often times more blatant with the begging for money.
With JM I do think that she needs to be kept honest because she has shown that she is willing to flat out lie or stretch the truth to its limits, but why not others? Now correct me if I am wrong but I do tend to remember that OHIH and some other places actually did call out others though not to the same manner as JM.....why is it that MWOP is so adamant to vilify JM but never talk much of other bloggers?
One thing that really gets me is that the things with JM used to just be the big things....now it is everything.
I read a number of "mommy" blogs and for the most part, they all do the exact same thing. They are all looking for clicks for their blogs, because hello, that is how they make money. Clicking more than one page isn't unique to JM by any means and neither is drama.
Most of them stretch to the truth and show only a piece of their real lives on their blog. A couple of posts ago I did a break down between JM, PW and KH and they are all very similar.
The real difference between the three? Comments; neither PW or KH allow any (or very few in the case of pw) negative comments to be posted. Heck PW has three anti PW sites, JM only has one.
Anonwalker
Shannon and Anonwalker
I agree Anonwalker that many do the same thing..just find it odd that so many can't get OVER Mckmama...
Shannon you are right OHIH did discuss many other bloggers and I think it is important that all bloggers be held accountable...
My biggest gripe with blogging is the begging for money. I actually had this blog I followed...their son had a heart condition and they pretty much knew he would not make it...gained a LARGE blog following like Mckmama over the pregnancy and the resulting death of her son after numerous surgeries...they have asked for money from the beginning to help with medical bills. The problem I have with this is they both work..have insurance and are expecting again...yet they still are asking for money via another site set up to pay their medical bills, yet they go on vacations, buy expensive things and live a lavish life...what is wrong with our society that people think this is OK? Of course this is my opinion but I think there should be guidelines in place that monitor online begging....
I believe that many have allowed their HATE to overshadow their hearts and this is why the nit picking about every little thing about Mckmama has gotten out of hand.
Lauren,
I don't find any issue with not getting over Mckmama or even having a blog devoted to following her every written word and then speculating what it all means in the grand picture. Heck, I find it amusing to read there much of the time, so there merit there!
I have two issues. One, is the hypocrisy and the pointing of fingers when they can easily be turned back toward themselves. Clean up your own yard before you go complaining about the neighbors or simply don't read the blog if her every word causes you so much anger and hate. That is a bit scary and out there for me.
Second issue is with the harassment, and often ridicule that goes into bullying of anyone who supports, follows, defends or works with her. It's not anyone's job to save the world from a "mommy" blogger. Really.
I don't have an issue with people asking for money, they aren't forcing anyone to give. I don't have an issue with the please send money blog buttons. I do have an issue entitlement attitude that some have adopted when giving those gifts or prayers, if they don't receive what "they" thing is proper credit. Don't give with strings attached, don't pray with strings attached.
I don't have an issue with ad's on people's blog or creating drama to get more clicks, heck that goes way back to cliffhangers in television or even radio! If someone has a problem with that then they really need to open their eyes up to television, radio, internet and movies with product placements, lol.
Bottom line is that no one makes anyone read any blog, if you don't like it....don't read. Simple really.
Anonwalker
do you have to be in full disclosure??? Or is it just good etiquette?
AnonMommyBlogger
The new laws state full disclosure. If you are reviewing something and are getting paid or the item for FREE you must disclose this. Also if you are getting PAID by a sponsor (like Kelle Stamps does) and you are giving a review of the product you must disclose that you are being paid by the sponsor for the review.
Anonwalker:
I don't have a problem with blogs that voice their opinions about other blogs or bloggers either...I just don't like the bullying and slander that goes on.
I haave no problem with ads on blogs and people making money in an honest way on their blogs...the begging for money just bothers me. I have seen many families with medical bills do a raffle of sorts or have sponsors offer a percentage of the sales to go towards the donation if you buy something...I'm fine with that. I just think when people start putting donation buttons up just because they want help paying their medical bills I view that no different than the panhandler on the street and I know most cities have laws against panhandling now...yes you are right you don't have to give but I still think there is no way to know if this money is really going towards medical bills or trips so there should be guidelines in place to police this.
I happen to also think the begging for money on the web has gotten out of hand....to easy for scammers to take advantage of people.
I personally can't stand Kelle Hampton, more than I can't stand Mckmama. That woman uses her kids to no end, and by the love of God, enough of the naked pics..mmkay? I thinks it's INSANE how many of those woman love Kelle but hate JM! It makes no sense to me.
As for making money off the blogs, ads are one thing (you can block them!), the begging is another. I don't really care for the donate buttons either.
The way I see it, blogs are a lot like diaries, with a few handy tips. Tips I can find by Googling, and I sure the heck am not going to pay someone to read their diary. (well... maybe a few I would pay to read...) ;)
PW bothers me. I never really read her until someone pointed out PWSucks site. That site is hilarious and a bit scary at the same time. The woman who writes it stalked the damn woman. That's just odd. But back to PW. WOW! I mean seriously. I've never understood it. You read sometimes and you say to yourself, "really, you want the world to know that?"
There is another blog I read where I think that often. She's honest though, she flat out begs for money. But at least she's honest, right?
What MckMama does is no different than all the other mommy bloggers I read, and I read a lot of them. Oddly enough a lot of the very popular mommy bloggers have sites against them. I have to wonder if in fact it isn't a bit of jealousy that causes these sites to pop up?
anon 3:15pm I think you are on to something with the jealousy thing.
I noticed that many of the people who at one time supported Mckmama end up coming across as VERY jealous..of course they would never own that.
Anon 3:15 and Lauren...very good point!
So I pose this question, could the "hate" sites be nothing more than women who are extremely jealous of the famous mommy bloggers and they bully just out of jealousy? Does that make sense?
Shelby
Okay, serious question here...can someone tell me what there is about Jennifer to be jealous *of? I mean, I sort of get why people could be jealous of PW, even though I can't stand her. But I do get it. What in the world would anyone be jealous of Jennifer McKinney *for, though? Is it just her blog, because even that's not huge-huge, you know?
Lisa...good question!
Given the current economic situation, my guess would be that she has fallen into crap more than once and had come out smelling like a rose just about every time. There are a lot of families out there struggling. Also if she asks (begs), she receives. That's my take on it anyway.
Shelby
LOL. Lisa I have wondered that so many times. It seems like the fall back if you dont like JM is that you are jealous. OF WHAT???? I mean seriously jealous that she has popped out 5 kids in 6 years? No thank you. Jealous that her husband's business has gone under (presumably)? Jealous that she has so many over the top followers who think she farts rainbows? Jealous that her son had a scary but very fixable condition that he no longer has to suffer from? Jealous that they have had so many things that I wouldnt mind having except that they didnt really have them because they have had them taken away?
Yeah not so much
Kelle Hampton bugs the you know what out of me. She does many things that JM is crucified for, ie putting Nella on a picnic table to take a picture. The pictures of her and her naked child in the bathtub were a pedophile's dream come true. There is definitely a double standard when it comes to bloggers. I am not jealous of JM, no reason to be but have always liked her. I don't hold her to a gold standard like the MWOPers do so that is why things roll of my back. It doesn't affect my day to day life. The MWOPers let it affect their day to day life and that is just dumb.
Seriously, I don't care about the Mcks and who owns that house. The MODS on MWOP keep bringing up old stuff. it's just a merry go round with nothing earth shattering or new. All it proves is that JM isthe master (mistress) of deceit. She's already proven herself to have no ethics but MWOP isn't any better.
I think it's ridiculous that Shell posted the first names and addresses of the Mck neighbors. Why bring them into the picture? That's just not right. I would be fuming if I were those people.
The things I think people are jealous about are things like the following:
1. Making money off her blog.
2. Making money off her photography business.
3. Getting to travel and make money.
4. Having such a loyal fan base of followers.
5. Getting to travel to Africa.
6. Having 5 children(yes some are jealous of this)
7. Receiving all the free things from sponsors
8. Having a very nice house.
Now the examples I have given are all things I have seen the MWOP ladies gripe about and say it's not fair she has xyz and I don't! Although we may not be jealous of her 5 children...believe me there are gals who would love to have 5 kids but maybe their husband said 2 was enough.
Many of the MWOP are just as CRUNCHY as Mckmama and I believe they tried to be just like Mckmama and maybe they reached out to Mckmama and she ignored them and then they get mad and turn on her. I've seen more than one who was a big time sheeple and next thing you know they are on MWOP saying Mckmama wouldn't promote their business. Well lets be honest here....does Kelle Hampton or Pioneer Woman promote everyone who happens to ask..business? No of course not....nor does Kelly Stamps.
This is what I mean about being jealous....
I also think that many parents of sick children became HATERS of Mckmama during the Stellan crisis because they were jealous that they didn't get all the attention like she did. I noticed during this time there happened to be a large number of haters with sick children and many of these same ladies are haters today...again I saw them being jealous!
I guess I never saw anything to be jealous of, but now that you listed it out like that Lauren I can see it. Those are the things they bitch about the most.
My sil is pregnant with their 5th, she has a friend who has only one and has pcos and her friend was very upset when my sil announced her news. I on the other hand would not be a happy camper if I found out I was knocked up! lol
I wouldn't want a husband who didn't work, I wouldn't want a house that big, because I wouldn't want to clean a house that big. I wouldn't want the "fame" and all the negativity, and I surly wouldn't want a sick kid. There is nothing there for those at mwop to be jealous of.
People really need to just be happy with what they have! Like this blog: http://creatingmyownlittlenirvana.blogspot.com/2011/06/did-you-know.html (not sure if you allowed live links or not, feel free to change it if you don't!)
Sorry for rambling! I just didn't "see" the whole jealousy thing before and now it makes sense!
Oh, it didn't live link anyway. :)
AnonMommyBlogger,
I don't think either, blogs are snapshots.
Anonwalker
Lauren,
I agree about the bullying and slander. We will have to disagree about the begging of money on blogs. But, I don't recall Mckmama ever asking for money for herself on her blog, causes yes, but herself no. I haven't even read her comments as hinting for giftcards as mwop claims.
There will always be ways to scam people sadly.
Anonwalker
Fake name,
I agree about KH, she uses her kids more than JM does any day and I totally agree about naked photos, sheesh.
I do find it funny that KH follows JM in a some things. Notice that one of her children now wears an amber necklace for teething as one example.
Anonwalker
I don't know if they are all jealous, some people just like hanging with mean girls and being mean.
I would think that any number of people could be jealous of either PW or JM, both have nice houses and can pretty much do whatever they want to in life at the moment. It's amazing what people can and are jealous of.
Anonwalker
Ann,
I agree.
Anonwalker
For me it's not hard to see how you can be jealous. I mean seriously I'd love to just write a blog post and make a ton of money. I'd love to be at home with my kids and not working my ass off instead. I'd love my child to be "miraculosly" cured (I can't spell). But it's not how it is.
I'm no longer jealous of these things because frankly I came to the belief that it was stupid to be jealous of these things. But I am still a bit bothered by people's willingness to give, and give for the wrong reasons. It seems more like a popularity contest, who can get on the good side of the blogger, rather than truly helping out.
Lauren I think that a lot of moms out there got upset and not jealous with JM through Stellan's illness. I do not believe that a lot of them were jealous of the attention that she received as much as they were upset with the fact that she would make it seem like he was the sickest child in the world and Jesus healed him because he loves him best.
There were things that were done and said on her end that I strongly feel alienated a lot of women who are either currently dealing with sever illness/disability/crisis with their own child or have already lost that child.
Now please correct me if I am wrong here...was it Brent Riggs who had the baby that was born very prematurely...Maddie? I have seen so many that have just been disgusted at how he would use his daughter as a tool to gain readership and even financial gain. It wasnt that people were jealous but that they just could not imagine doing this with their own sick child.
I know that for myself I became aware of JM right about the time that the famous ADENOSINE NOW!!! Incident where through her own words made us (the reader's)think that that little baby was on the doorsteps of death. The way that she played off that whole time honestly made me a bit sick but I was worried about that little boy and kept reading and refreshing because I was concerned. I didnt want her baby to die. I didnt want her baby to be sick. And when it finally was evident, again by her own actions and words, that things were NEVER as serious nor as dire as she presented them to be.
I still think that for a majority of readers who have turned into "haters" it was crap like this that caused that change in opinion....not jealousy.
Shannon,
I agree to a certain point, I don't agree with some of the actions of JM (and other bloggers as well), because that isn't what I would do in whatever situation. But, I'm not in that situation and I know I wouldn't anyone to judge and pick apart my parenting to the nth degree. So, why would I do that to someone else?
Anonwalker
"There are a lot of families out there struggling. Also if she asks (begs), she receives. That's my take on it anyway."
Shelby, that's true...she does seem to always come out ahead, although I think it's all smoke and mirrors. Still, the appearance is there.
And Lauren, all the things you listed...think of the intense stress that comes with maintaining all that. The deceit and lies, the immoral behavior that has come along with her having many of those things. Do you really think they're jealous of it all, in spite of that? Although, as I think of it, I suppose a very materialistic person could be, hmmm? They aren't thinking about what got her all those things. Okay, that does sort of make sense. Look I've love a beautiful, big house, too, but not like she got that one and not with the stress it puts on her family to maintain it, you know? But okay, if all one cares about is appearances, I can see how there could be some jealousy. I suppose it's just not my thing to be sell my family out, put them in (supposed) danger, owe people tons of money, default on my word, which contracts are, in order to have materialistic gain and I guess some people are okay with it...the end justifies the means or something.
Good point Lisa....I wouldnt mind a nice big fancy house but seriously I am quite content and happy sharing a house with people I consider family, living simple, and being happy.
I drive a 26 year old truck that is actually at the mechanics getting fixed as we speak. I *am getting new shoes today because the ones I am wearing are almost 2 years old. I dont need much. I dont want much. To me excess is just wasteful and instead of jealousy I get disgusted.
I have been accused of being a bully because I blogged a long time ago about Kelle Hampton. It's how I felt at the time, and like someone else said, it's just a snapshot. I don't take actual pictures, so my words are my snapshots. I will admit to feeling jealous at times of successful mommy bloggers, especially Dooce with her mansion in Utah. But then I'm like, "Utah? Really?" and then I think "I like to keep my poop stories to myself." But who wouldn't want to get rich off of the writing that we all do on the internet anyway? Oh, me! Me! Me!
And I no longer begrudge KH her success. I never followed PW, and I don't remember how I found MckMomma. I wouldn't trade places with any one of them. Not for all the Etsy on the internet.
I like reading people who are intelligent in dissent. Funny in dissent is even better.
Isn't saying it's a SPONSOR equal to saying you're being paid? I mean really? To sponsor = to pay. I figure anyone who can't decipher that, well, ya know. :)
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