A poster on Mwopblog.com named Fabootay wrote the following in a comment under the blog post called AS THE BLOG TURNS.
Secondly, as someone who was severely bullied growing up, I know what it can do to a person, and I know it can sometimes make you act, or react in a way that is out of character for you. I know that emotions that come to the surface when someone is threatening you or your family, or when they keep smearing your name through the mud can make you want to inflict that same pain, fear and humiliation on to the person attacking you, or sometimes just the people around you. I can fully understand, and empathize to how what's her faces constant attacks were making the mods, who were her targets, feel. I can fully understand, and empathize how, when the opportunity arose to get her back, how satisfying it must have felt to stick it to her. I get it, I really really do. I understand how blinding raw emotions can be.
What I would like to say is since Fabootay seems to know how it feels to be bullied and she is making excuses for the behavior of the mods for putting up the PORN, maybe she should take a step back. Maybe she should understand that Bullies Without Pity was started for the very reason she is addressing in her comment.
I was BULLIED because I dared to NOT agree 100% with the mods and the majority. I spoke up and said making fun of people is wrong. I said harassing people who are followers of Mckmama is wrong. I stood up for what I believed in…I never said I am right and you are wrong. I never tried to change anyone’s opinions. I voiced my opinions and time and time again I was attacked. I left and decided to start my own blog and address bullying and the effect is has on people.
I stand behind my decision to start this blog and I know for a fact this blog has helped at least one person stand up to the bullies. If only one person was helped, I am fine with that. Hopefully others who have been afraid to speak out for fear of being bullied will now realize you should speak up. Many have done just that here. I know from the many emails I have received that lots of ladies from Mwopblog.com believe that MWoPshell is a BULLY. The problem is that she makes up fake accounts under disquis to comment and praise herself. The fake accounts are used to attack the peopple who dare to speak against her or disagree with her. Talk about a sick person....enter men in little white coats. MWoPshell plays all innocent and she lets her alter egos do her dirty work....she has now been caught in her little web of lies (you know lying like she claims Mckmama does) and she is trying to use hot linking as a way to deflect the attention off of the REAL ISSUE.
As you can see…I’m not afraid of the BULLIES and I’m not backing down! I am not afraid of MWoPshell and neither shoudl you. Enough is enough. They are free to have their blog and say whatever they like, at the same time…I can do the same. Once a BULLY figures out you are not afraid….they lose the control. Once they lose the control….you get actions like have occurred with PORN and defensiveness like you have seen over the last few days. If you truly feel you have done nothing wrong….you stand behind your decision and you certainly don’t have to defend your decision!
64 comments:
I really wish you would stop calling those pictures porn. Maybe you have never seen porn? I do agree with you that the pics were not something I would want on my blog, but they are not porn. But it's your blog, so carry on.
I find it funny that you was first in line at OHIH to bash Mck in any way you could. You made fun of her, called her names and everything else, but since you have had a change of heart about her.. NOW, it's all wrong that everyone still has their opinion of her. YOU use to bully her. Why is it so wrong now? When YOU was doing it, it was fun, and a laugh. You got banned from her site, her blogfrog.. what did she do, give you photoshop so now shes a saint? Tell me.. why the change of heart about Mck? Inquiring minds wanna know. I mean if thats ok. This is your blog. I don't want to be labeled a bully.
First off maybe you didn't see the original pictures posted here...not the animals having sex...the other pictures...they were PORN!
Second I have said MANY times I spoke my mind about Mckmama. I have said MANY times once she made changes I accepted she was changing the way she did things...what I can't change my mine? Isn't this the USA that we have that freedom? I have said MANY times I told her I was sorry for judging her...she accepted. I owe you are no one else that...because I am not judging you unless you are BULLYING people.
No I never won any of her contest...never entered any..not my thing.
You cannot know what is in my heart and I don't expect you to know...
I know and that is all that matters. I have always stood up for what I believe in and I defended MANY on OHIH and MWOP who were BULLIED and this is how I came to have this blog...because I stood up when it wasn't the popular thing to do...I was BULLIED. Only difference is I didn't back down...and I will not back down.
Hope that clears that up....
I did see the pictures and I still say not porn.
I have no problem if you had a change of heart with her. These other ladies haven't so now they are bullying? So let me get this straight.. You didn't USE to like her, so you bullied her. Now you had a change of heart, like her so you don't bully her no more. NOW, you want to bash people that don't like her. Maybe you should give all these ladies time to have their change of heart. And at the rate shes going these days, I don't see it being real soon. Just my opinion of course.
And since you claim we have no life, I wanted to let you know if I don't respond until later i'm out spending the rest of the day with my daughter. And nope, I don't use my phone and check. Shocker I know!
Have a good day.
"I really wish you would stop calling those pictures porn."
It was porn. Nipples, visible labia, ball gags, female on female sexual domination, whips = porn.
And how dare you assume that everyone has the same low standards as yourself and Shell? Shame on you.
Even people who enjoy porn understand that it has a time and a place and that its use should be voluntary. Do you not understand that some women here (and there) are Christians who view porn as a sin? And what about those who see it as an assault on Feminism? And what about the women who read these blogs with small children nearby? You all are soooooo worried about JM's kids being exposed to who knows what but it's "okay" and "fine" when other people's children may see porn on Mommy's computer.
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Shame on you and shame on your Head Dolt to ASSume that everybody needs to be exposed to whatever it is that floats your boat and has so obviously hardened and jaded you to the point that you think porn is normal in everyday situations.
Anon 10:42am
You are twisting the words...sorry!
I changed the way I viewed things...she made changes. The items I felt were wrong...she corrected.
No..I don't think the choice someone else makes is mine as far as liking or disliking Mckmama. That is not what this blog is about....disliking someone and BULLYING are different.
You can not like someones blog...like I don't like that Kelle Hampton exploits her childs DS for clicks...she never had ads or sponsors as she calls them before the child was born. Now that she can make money off her childs DS...she does. I don't like it but I don't harrass her sponsors, her followers nor do I investigate to see if she pays her bills. That is the difference...I don't like her intent with her blog...but I LOVE her pictures.
Hope this makes it easier for you to understnad my point of view....you are entitled to dislike Mckmama or anyone else you choose...just don't BULLY!
I find this amazing. Does not one single solitary person who agrees with the mods over at mwop or the mods themselves see that they are doing the exact same thing to jm and anyone (or any business, charity, whatever) that supports her?
The double standard used to be a bit more subtle but now that it's in bright red blinking neon lights, how can everyone not see?
I'm not a huge fan of jm by any means but you know what, after the actions of the mods I give her a hell of a lot of credit for taking this crap day in and day out without responding as the mods of mwop have done. Jm has only posted once on mwop and that was to ask them to stop, she has never resorted to some of the comments that the mods have lowered themselves to, I find this very interesting. Don't you?
Anonwalker
understnad is suppose to be understand SORRY!!
Wait.. I am no mod on MWOP. I read Mckmama, MWOP and here. I also read back in the day at OHIH and posted there.
I see porn different that you do. I can have my opinion just like you can.
And last.. I come here and read a PUBLIC blog, state my opinion and the way I see something to the owner of this blog, and I'm a mod at MWOP? I will tell you who I am... I am Angel from Emily Makes 3. The owner of this blog knows me. And before anyone wants to run to my blog and bash me, it's been private for some time now. I closed shop.
I love how MWOP has resorted to banning people as well. How JM of them. The hypocrisy is amazing. Love it.
-Pamala
And yes, I find it very interesting that these so called morally higher than JM women resorted to some rather inappropriate behavior. To sit there and tell people they are better than JM and then act in the manner they are, totally contradictory. And then the posts recently put up.
And you know what, I'll put this out publically, I'm sorry I ever participated at that place. They're no better than JM, heck I think they're worse. JM may be sarcastic and bitchy sometimes but she never has responded in the manner they have to people who disagree with her. All she ever did was prevent them from commenting on her blog. And seeing as it's her damn blog more power to her.
Now the MODS at MWOP are banning people from posting, making any defense impossible. Just like JM but worse seeing as they're free to post whatever accusations they want to about people, but those people can't respond.
-Pamala
I'm really finding it interesting that those who support the mods in their keeping of porn on their website to flow through to this site are now asking that this matter be dropped (another post is quickly up for diversion, another claimed jm tactic) and they get back to their mission of keeping jm accountable. Makes you wonder, who is going to keep the mods at mwop accountable since they certainly aren't interested in being accountable by themselves.
Anonwalker
"I see porn different that (sic) you do."
I can only imagine how hard core it has to get before you classify it as porn. Would animals and small children be involved? Is that where your porn line kicks in? Is actual penetration required?
"I am Angel from Emily Makes 3."
I assume from your cheesy blog name that you are a mommy. Tell you what, why not show the photos to your minor child, answer all her questions and then come on back here and tell us it's not porn.
I took a screenshot of the page. Let me know where to send it. I'm sure little Emily is simply DYING to learn all about rope bondage. Perhaps it can be a fun Mommy n' Me project in your future?
In all the time that I have read both mwop and mcks blogs I have NEVER seen jm respond in the manner that mwop has responded. Yes, she has been snarky and a bit rude with them just as mwop has been snarky and rude...but to the levels that mwop sinks to on a routine basis? Nope. Says a lot, doesn't it?
Anonwalker
Well perhaps there needs to be a blog dedicated to just them then? I know this blog is here but perhaps there needs to be a MWOP Without Pity, so there can't be any "well why don't you focus on anyone else" crap. LOL! No seriously. If they're going to hold JM to certain standards, stands to reason they should be held to those standards as well, right?
-Pamala
Bondage and porn are different. Look it up. I don't let my child read these blogs I go to. That doesn't even make any sense. I take it you do?
I will say it again. I don't see those pictures as being porn. My opinion. If my daughter did see them, it was naked woman. Yea, im sure I would have to explain why a ball was in her mouth and etc, but sure better explaining that than what I see to be porn.
And again.. if you read correctly, which I assume you didnt, I said I wouldnt like them on my blog either. Said that from the get go. I don't approve of what they did. Not at all.
I'm still reading the as the blog turns thread and I read another comment that is a bright red neon flashing sign that literally screams double standard and I'm guessing the poster doesn't see it either.
Really if you can't deal with how jm operates her website, shouldn't you also move along?
Anonwalker
It's actually been kind of hilarious how they're using the same words as Sheeple in regards to this blog and "naysayers" of MWOP. And they can't see it at all. I mean do they believe they are morally responsible for making sure everyone sees the light about JM?
I think it is about time to start a new blog where the hypocrisy and "truths" are revealed about MWOP. Seriously.
-Pamala
Pamala - I agree, how can you expect certain standards out of a person (in their case jm) when you aren't maintaining those standards yourself?
Don't just talk the talk, walk the walk. Otherwise, it looks pretty darn silly.
Maybe there should be another blog, mwopwop anyone?
Anonwalker
I know, some of their "truths" are pretty funny.
For example the twitter spam one, if you read what was posted it said some of the things they consider, they didn't have a hard and fast rule about spam and mwop implied otherwise. A couple of posters questioned that and were either ignored or smacked on the hand rudely.
Take the ebay/pay pal supports planned parenthood, well they might but if you read the "proof" that they posted, it didn't say that either of them supports planned parenthood. Their cut/paste was a listing of organizations that "may" match your donation if you work for them. I don't think a single person questioned that.
I find it amazing that so many people who followed jm so closely believing everything she said now follow what mwop collectively say so easily.
Anonwalker
What you imagined:
"I don't let my child read these blogs I go to. That doesn't even make any sense. I take it you do?"
What was actually said:
"And what about the women who read these blogs with small children nearby? You all are soooooo worried about JM's kids being exposed to who knows what but it's "okay" and "fine" when other people's children may see porn on Mommy's computer."
Keywords: NEARBY and MAY.
Once again, please, try reading, it truly helps!
Great Post!
MWOP is a joke! The mods destroyed the place. This blog is NO DIFFERENT then theirs! How can they not see that! They drag JMs name, family, followers, businesses through the mud continually, yet how dare you do the same? Ridiculous!
Darcy
http://www.mwopwop.blogspot.com/
LOL!!
Now who wants to help?
-Pamala
Kudos to Shell for whipping out the email from Shaun Groves at just the right moment.
What better way to avert attention from the beating her sock puppet was taking in the previous thread?
As a diversionary tactic, it's an oldie, but still a goodie.
Way to go, Shell!
I literally lol when I saw another post up so quickly.
Anonwalker
I find it odd that you see yourself as the defender of those who have been bullied when you are a BULLY yourself.
One who knows a BULLY when she sees one
FYI there was never any naughty pictures on the MWOP site. They just ended up here due to the improper hotlinking. I guess you need to find a better way to steal material to bully them with.
Tech Saavy
So do you sit and stare at the pictures that long to worry about that? I did long enough to laugh, then moved on. IF my daughter would have seen them... scroll up to finish!
I see what you are saying. Little ones could have been walking by. Again, I DO NOT approve of what they did. Are you not getting that? Maybe YOU need to learn to read. It does help.
"We will leave this thread open for discussion as long as readers/users want."
That was my favorite part, Shell. It was so magnanimous of you and what better way to lend credence to your feigned concern for unfavorable opinions.
You're on a roll, girl!
See that's why another site is needed, you can't use this site to call them out, because they'll just fall back on the stupid name.
"So do you sit and stare at the pictures that long to worry about that?"
Yes, that's exactly what I do. In fact, I'm staring at them right now! Because we all know how hard it is to find more porn on the internet. It may take me weeks to figure out how! No way am I allowing these two cheesy photos to leave my vision. I may never see another fake lesbian domme scene again! Oh nooooes!
"Again, I DO NOT approve of what they did."
Defense = approval.
Maybe we should forget about the reading and try moving on to the logical thinking part of the exercise instead. I don't see an improvement in the reading area and I doubt we'll see on in the future so perhaps it's time for something new.
Maybe you're an internet idiot savant and the simple concepts are just too......umm.....simple? ;'-}
I'm not arguing with you anymore. In fact, I'm off to do a mommy n me project with my daughter. While i'm gone, maybe you can go back and read where I started commenting and maybe, just maybe you will understand where I am coming from idiot.
Ummmm why is SHELL posting on MWOP under the name sunnybloom??? Did she think no one would notice?
No Name is just one of those crazy internet ladies who isn't bright enough to do anything other than call people idiots, then thinks if it's prefaced with a "bless your heart" or an emoticon that they are totally good with Jaysus.
"While i'm gone, maybe you can go back and read where I started commenting and maybe, just maybe you will understand where I am coming from idiot."
Umm, I wouldn't hold out hope. I would have to also be an idiot in order to fully understand the source of your idiocy and I doubt I can kill off enough brain cells by the time little Emily learns how to tie a surgeon's knot.
Don't forget to teach her about safe words too. It's never too early to be exposed to the full spectrum of not porn!
I know who you are now, and I don't think you are the one I would want to learn parenting skills from.
Have a good day!
"No Name is just one of those crazy internet ladies who isn't bright enough to do anything other than call people idiots, then thinks if it's prefaced with a "bless your heart" or an emoticon that they are totally good with Jaysus."
No, I'm not a Christian (though unlike you I do have respect for the beliefs and followers of Jesus Christ) and I've never even typed the words "bless your heart" until right now.
You're here for the remedial reading group, yes? You're in luck! We happen to have a recent opening.
;-}
"I know who you are now, and I don't think you are the one I would want to learn parenting skills from."
Yeah, you know who I am but you're keeping it on the down low and using implication and innuendo to seem ummm brighter and more attentive.
Like, no one on the internet has ever tried THAT before.
I would be insulted if I had expected more out of you in the first place.
I do know that you seem strangely turned on by the idea of kids looking at porn. Look at all those breathless sentences describing the scene...wow.
Aww, the poor girl thinks that the fact that sane people can't make sense of her garbled words means they somehow are lacking in intelligence.
Have a cup of tea and step away from the computer. You seem awfully worked up.
P.S. I am not shelmo or shell or anyone you know. Let's call me "Gen."
Anon 11:52 you are wrong....your master MWoPshell with the 164 IQ changed the first pics to the animals having sex and she forgot to change them on Mwop...so most of the afternoon Mwop had the animals having sex pics also....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You didn't think I was going to tell them did you? Of course not...so all of the Mwop ladies who happen to be at work yesterday and used their work computers had PORN (animals having sex) on their work computers...that is why many are mad that they now have to worry about their jobs. I would be mad too. MWoPshell sure didn't think about that when she was distributing PORN yesterday.
What you imagined:
"Look at all those breathless sentences describing the scene...wow."
What was actually typed about the "scene":
"Nipples, visible labia, ball gags, female on female sexual domination, whips = porn."
I guess only internet idiot savants can sense the breathlessness? I read matter of fact accuracy.
(Meanwhile, in the background of internet neglect, little Emily cries as she struggles to release the family dog from his Mommy n' Me bondage ropes....)
"little Emily cries as she struggles to release the family dog from his Mommy n' Me bondage ropes"
LOL. You went ahead and did it again.
I can tell you're not actually a member of the BDSM community, because you would speak of kink with respect and humor and not bring it into twisted fantasies about other people's children.
I do know one thing. Violet should be very wary of Shell. How long do you suppose it will be till Shell finds a reason that violet broke the TOU & takes over the blog too, like she did with the forum? I'll give Shell one thing, it's that she is VERY tech savvy & knows how to "get in the back door" (her own words). I will no longer comment on MWOP blog, gives shell too much access to my info. I hope those ladies on MWOP know what they're contending with in Shell. Good luck to them all (except the mods, people told them to get shell off the mod position& they didn't listen). All the other commenters there I will miss you :) <- non snarky smile.......
You know to be honest I'd be a bit worried too. They're banning people who haven't even violated the TOS. So they can make whatever they want up to take over. Hopefully we'll continue to expose the contradictions.
I honestly am very worried. It doesn't look good for MWOP. Not sure there is anything anyone can do though. The Mods refuse to listen to others & are standing "as one". Sad they don't see Shell for who she really is. Problems didn't start to happen until Shell came in & started all the problems, even the forum drama. Why don't others see this?
Sorry to bust into all the new WOP forming *grins* and finger pointing to backtrack, but Tina, from the last post:
"Your blog was used to post comments and say GM stole money from Krista....you had no proof but yet you claimed it to be true..you owned the blog and allowed others to say it as FACT."
I did "own" Daisy (do again) in that I started it. But I said from the outset I was not going to moderate it, that I did nothing there but change the posts. I said from the outset I'd accept no responsibility for what was said at the place and would remove nothing but porn-spam. So, yes, I absolutely "allowed" people to post anything they liked as fact, until one point. It's up to what I assume to be reasonable intelligent people to make their own decisions as to whether they believe everything they read or not. I'm no one's damn babysitter because I don't think adults need babysitters. :-P
"I don't blame her one bit for posting all of you ladies names...it worked. You stopped, closed shop and left her alone."
Well, no, I didn't close shop. Daisy has never been closed. It did die off over my extreme mishandling of the whole Chris/Elizabeth thing and a lot of people left due to being freaked out when full names and pictures of people's homes were posted. You say you didn't do it? Fine. Whatever. We're known by the company we keep, though, aren't we? Myself included. Honestly, *I'm the fool that got that mess stopped for *everyone, had/have the info to back it up too. I got it stopped after the partial posting of GM's grandkids' pictures on Wendy's GMWOP blog, in the midst of many of my friends worrying sick (silliness, frankly), when GM approached me, asking if we could figure out how to end all this. I agreed, trying to help those I cared for. So, yes, it stopped and none of *your family pictures ever saw the light of day, either, thanks to me. You're welcome.
"GM respectfully asked you guys to STOP and you didn't...so she took action. GOOD FOR HER...."
Bull. She emailed me and said she wanted to put an end to all the foolishness when she saw her own grandbabies' faces unfolding in a puzzle on GMWOP, and asked if I would help her. Since the same foolishness was upsetting people I cared for as well, I agreed to do what I could. I forbade mention of y'all on Daisy and she/you/y'all/whoever stopped posting personal info of people on Daisy. In hindsight, for all the shit I wound up getting out of it, I should have let it all happen and just watched. No good deed goes unpunished, hmmm? Anyway, that needed clarified. :-)
Wow! Tell us how you really feel.
I've found it interesting that people have all these opinions of what Lauren has done and who she is but never gives any proof. Man I wish I could just run around the internet accusing people of all sorts of things without having to prove myself.
ROFL...someone has an anger issue. Oh, and her grandkids are actually quite lovely and sane-looking, ftr. Her whole family is.
P.S. It's "trailer". Sorry, pet peeve.
MWOPWOP (lmao...), what kind of proof do you want, exactly?
To the crazy person who decided to use all the FOUL language and talk about my family...BYE BYE BYE
Sorry everyone had to deal with that nut with the foul language.
I am leaving in the morning for a trip and I have been busy packing, shopping and visiting with my family.
Because some people are crazy the comments are back on moderation and will stay on moderation until I return.
This blog is not my life. I have posts scheduled while I will be away...but I may not be checking the comments often.
Be back in 10 days. Don't worry about anyone knowing I will be gone...the alarm is set and unless they can get past my neighbor that loves any chance he can get to try out his gun collection...we should be OK! LOL
See you when I get back..
So Anon at 11.51 if you say "One who knows a BULLY when she sees one.", that must mean you are a bully as well?
Anonwalker
Dear Tech Saavy,
If they were hotlinked, then the pictures were stored on the mwop site. You might not have seen them, but they were on the mwop site.
Anonwalker
Now the crazies are eating crow over at MWOP..Kitties are driving them batty. hahshahaha
Anonwalker,
The pictures were on the server, not the site.
Tech Saavier
"Lauren" saying people are worried because they viewed "PORN" at work is a croc. They shouldn't have been viewing sites unrelated to Theo jobs in the first place. So that really is a mute point. Aren't they suppose to be working at work? It's really amusing how upset everyone is about this.
When a robber takes money from a bank and the dye explodes all over him, he would be a little pissed with a blue mugshot. But then again he shouldn't have robbed the bank to start with now should he? Reap what you sow.
I don't know about anyone else, but I miss Tina.
We are allowed to use the internet for personal uses where I work, but we are expected to use them within reason. We are also expected to keep the use to a minimum, but it is ok. But, looking at porn is unacceptable. Period. I'm glad my company allows me to do this, which I normally do it when I would otherwise be on a break. Others get to go out for a smoke break, I chose to check out a few things on the web. Either way it is unproductive time, but a nice break. I have no problem with changing the link, but make it to something that is harmless, not something that many would find offensive. JM fan or not.
Anon 2:36pm,
I don't work in such a restrictive environment and I am also allowed to use the internet for personal uses so no, it's not a mute point because the office rules that you may be familiar with may not apply to all.
What you seem to be missing is that it wasn't that the pictures were replaced, mwop has every right to keep porn on their site, but to affect another sight with their love for porn, well it's tacky at best. Just replace the pictures.
Anonwalker
"Lauren" saying people are worried because they viewed "PORN" at work is a croc."
I guess you missed the complaints on MWOP about this very thing?
Try paying attention. It helps!
Tech Savier,
Isn't hotlinking is taking images from someone's website? And of course mwop changed the link to display some of their favorite photos that they keep for viewing? LoL.
Anonwalker
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